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Ah, that makes sense. Including why Magic defeated them so effortlessly at the start of said game.

BTW, speaking of "non-canon" stuff, if we were to look into that, do we have any idea as to what tier Gehaburn would fall? The ending itself is non-canon, but technically speaking, the weapon still exists in the universe. Nepgear just canonically never found it during the true ending route.
 
What Alex said

Btw about the canonicity of the other games, it's more a non canon as in "unrelated to the main series" rather than non canon to the series itself, as they're arguably placed in different dimensions (iirc Action Unleashed directly states so). As for RB1, it actually is connected to the main games as it's heavily implied, if not confirmed (don't remember rn), that the makers that appear in it (aside from If and Compa) are the same that are in RB3
 
Ah, yes, a few of the makers specified that they'd come from other dimensions. Not all of them, though. I definitely remember MAGES. was one of them, and there were at least two others, but it definitely wasn't all of them. I don't think it was ever confirmed that they're the same ones from Victory, but it definitely was heavily implied.

Even so, I still don't really consider the original/Re;Birth1 to be canon.
 
Yes, MAGES. is actually the one that allowed them to reach the Superdimension, as it's implied she perfectioned the spell that she was researching in RB3 that allowed some of the Makers to reach the Ultradimension in that game. Some of them in RB1, even if not directly stating so, imply that they come from another dimension by saying that they already knew another Neptune
 
Can you summarise what we were discussing here?
 
The changes were already applied though, there was no need to bump.

This should be closed
 
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