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Hyperdimension Neptunia General Discussion Re;BirthMK2 Sisters Generation

tfw someone qualified and that knows what is happening says that is fine but you yourself still doubtful about it. So I'm going to say the thing that always say when I don't know what to say:

Ajá.
 
I'm not going to wish you luck, because it was 100% confirmed by science that wishing good luck for thing like this it will only make the things bad.

So just destroy that exam tomorrow and show to it who is the boss.
 
Kep still didn't answer about Rom's ice tree :V

He seems rather busy tho, so if you want you can try it and we'll ask him for an evaluation (unless you're still busy with exams)

Btw out of curiosity, would the ice being AZ change the result? As a weaker move is stated to be AZ (actually two if you count Umio's ice beam)
 
Yeah, he is busy so give him his space, bump your mensaje one time per two days and if he have not responded by one week then just drop it.

Actually, I don't really like the idea of calc ap feats in this moment, since the general revision will be mainly about it. We will have them but at the same time we have to wait untill we check again the games to make all the real changes.

Busy with exams you say? The next week should be my last if the people don't make it longer, but one of the subject (or lecture, I don't know how I should say it in english) had just evaluated 30% of 100%. Looks like I will need to shit an egg next week.

That's something that I don't right know at the moment, I will need to research it. I haven't really calc ice feats by now, unlike fire feats, IF first skill to be precise. Do you really need to guess what was the result?
 
Also

RKGenki said:
Kep still didn't answer about Rom's ice tree :V

He seems rather busy tho, so if you want you can try it and we'll ask him for an evaluation (unless you're still busy with exams)

Btw out of curiosity, would the ice being AZ change the result? As a weaker move is stated to be AZ (actually two if you count Umio's ice beam)
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I can calc the ice tree if you want me to.
 
Is there a full image of the feat with Rom herself in it? Idk how I'm gonna be able to pixelscale it because I can't really find a good frame to scale in the video.
 
There, those are at a single frame of difference with the same angle.

Also remember that Nep is 146 cm

Squid
Ice tree
 
Untitled 1

Nep's head is 36 px, the squid's 586 px.

Nep's height is 146 cm.

According to this here, Nep's head is around 18.3 cm.

586 / 36 = 16.277777777777777777777777777778

16.277777777777777777777777777778 * 18.3 = 297.88333333333333333333333333333 cm

So that's the height of the squid, gg.
 
I have the feeling that you three don't like me because I'm too exigent >_>

For the pixel scaling:

-The lines aren't fully straight and there is not a reason that they not to be.

-I have the feeling that Neptune isn't fully allied with the monster.

-Neptune is closer to the camera than the monster.

I have an idea to pixelscale the ice, but I need to see if is viable.
 
Untitled (1)

The squid is 74 px.

Untitled (3)

Man, this was an ass in the pain to scale...plus I probably scaled it wrong anyway, but hey, I tried.

The thing covers the entire screen (1366x768 px), and the trunk is 73 px.

1366 / 74 = 18.459459459459459459459459459459

768 / 74 = 10.378378378378378378378378378378

73 / 74 = 0.98648648648648648648648648648649

297.88333333333333333333333333333 * 18.459459459459459459459459459459 = 5498.7653153153153153153153153151 cm

297.88333333333333333333333333333 * 10.378378378378378378378378378378 = 3091.5459459459459459459459459458 cm

297.88333333333333333333333333333 * 0.98648648648648648648648648648649 = 293.85788288288288288288288288288 cm

I'll use a cone for the spikes because I suck at math, lol. Plus they seem to kinda-sorta form a triangle.

Volume = 2.45e+10 cm^3 or 24500 m^3

  • Density Of Frozen Nitrogen: 1026.5 kg/m^3
  • Mass of Ice: 25149250 kg
  • Specific Heat Of Nitrogen: 1040 j/kg
  • Freezing point of nitrogen: -210 C
  • Melting point of nitrogen: -196 C
  • Temperature: ~20+ C (Room Temperature)
Q1 = (25149250)(1040)(-196-(-210)) = 366173080000 joules

Fusion energy nitrogen = (25149250)(25702) = 646386023500 joules

Q2 = (25149250)(1040j/kg)(20-(-196)) = 5649527520000 joules

Vaporization energy nitrogen = (25149250)(199190j/kg) = 5009479107500 joules

366173080000 + 646386023500 + 5649527520000 + 5009479107500 = 1.167156573100e+13 joules, or 2.7895711594168002279 kilotons of TNT. Small Town level (idk if it's a + or not).

I probably did this horribly wrong, but oh well. I tried. :\
 
AlexSoloVaAlFuturo said:
I have the feeling that you three don't like me because I'm too exigent >_>

For the pixel scaling:

-The lines aren't fully straight and there is not a reason that they not to be.

-I have the feeling that Neptune isn't fully allied with the monster.

-Neptune is closer to the camera than the monster.

I have an idea to pixelscale the ice, but I need to see if is viable.
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Probably why I had no idea how to scale this...

If you have a viable way to scale the ice please tell me. It'd be really useful. I'll use it to recalc this too.
 
@Kaltias

Are you there? I don't know why I asking since you yourself has made clear that you are here... to steal pictures.
 
AlexSoloVaAlFuturo said:
@Kaltias

Are you there? I don't know why I asking since you yourself has made clear that you are here... to steal pictures.
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He was probably sleeping, it was like 2 AM in Italy
 
That pixel scaling for the squid is weird. Neptune is slightly closer but not to the extent that makes a huge difference.

Also yeah use straight lines.

And the squid seems more 3-4 Neps (this is now a legit unit of measurement ovo) tall than two times taller
 
I'm not even surprised at that point.

Anyway Nep's head is 245/1393 px, so the actual head:body proportion is 1:5,6857142857142857142857142857143.

Use that instead of 1:7, should give you the right value
 
Guess I'll recalc the tree feat then.

417.987158 * 18.459459459459459459459459459459 = 7715.8169976756756756756756756755 cm

417.987158 * 10.378378378378378378378378378378 = 4338.0288830270270270270270270269 cm

Volume = 3.8e+10 cm^3, or 38000 m^3.

Mass = 39007000 kg

Q1 = (39007000)(1040)(-196-(-210)) = 567941920000 joules

Fusion energy nitrogen = (39007000)(25702) = 1002557914000 joules

Q2 = (39007000)(1040j/kg)(20-(-196)) = 8762532480000.001 joules

Vaporization energy nitrogen = (39007000)(199190j/kg) = 7769804330000 joules

567941920000 + 1002557914000 + 8762532480000.001 + 7769804330000 = 1.810283664400e+13 joules, or 4.326681798279159 kilotons of TNT. Small Town level+.

Wow, considerably higher. Huh.

I'm still certain I pixelscaled or at least did smth wrong tho, oof.
 
Can you try doing it Accounting for AZ temperature? As one of Ram's tier 1 EXE drive (aka a weaker ice move than this one) and Umio's Ice ray (which is like, his first skill) are already stated to be AZ (not 100% sure about the last one)
 
Not quantifiable.

You can't reach AZ according to the third law of thermodynamic
 
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