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Hunter x Hunter Overhaul (Scaling)
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I used a ruler. I am not just assuming entirely. The shot you try to use as proof the crater is high can't be used as youpi is stated to be smaller at that time. The page right after ven displays the crater as being below youpi. We have a direct comparison to both knuckle and morel and its nkt even 10 meter as I said. We also have killua standing 45 meters away in comparison
GodlyCharmander
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Based on this source, the average depth-to-diameter ratio is 0.26, can we just use that and move on? There are multiple other problems with theendzero's AP scaling...
GodlyCharmander
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LMFAO
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Calling me biased doesn't change that I am factually right
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I ain't doing Pixel calcs for such an insignificant debate xD
GodlyCharmander
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What you are being is an active disturbance to the flow and progression of this CRT, always nitpicking or stating blatantly false/biased complaints that do nothing but slow us down in our discussions, not providing ONCE some kind of evidence or substantial reasoning behind your complaints. I am done with you, my guy. I will not be replying any further to your mindless bickering...
GodlyCharmander
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Ay, Chariot, could I get your opinion on this suggestion?
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So do the rest of you find this acceptable? As long as the calculation blogs have been accepted it seems fine to me.
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Yes, the scaling seems to be settled for the most part, especially as far as speed is concerned.
However, Charmander still seems to have a few kinks he wants to sort out with the AP calcs and scaling. After that's all sorted out, we'll only have Lifting Strength to deal with and we'll be done.
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No problem.
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Just go calc the height and use that when we can do so instead of using averages
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Btw charmanter to your calc method for the several houndrads of thousands of blows. It's also false. I just checked the manga. They only started to travel once the timer was at 25 minutes. The start of the fight between meruem and netero however started at like 15 minutes. Shortly before knuckle stopped his ability. It's stated youpi would at the best last 12 minutes after start of the invasion. Meruem was revived at the 49 minute mark when gon and pitou went away.
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Siiiiiiiigh... Puff started going to the king before the fight even started.
What a god damn nuisance...
Here they are, preparing to fly towards the king.
At this point, Netero didn't even bury Meruem in the tomb where the feat happened.
They started flying there at chapter 290, the fight started at chapter 291, and they got there at chapter 298.
The timeframe didn't come up again until chapter 300, and during chapter 300, 30 minutes passed.
Either way, 15 minutes is still perfectly plausible.
They started far, FAAAR after the 12 minute mark, and arrived far before the 49 minute mark.
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Ehm no? They literally started shortly after the 11:50 minutes mark. In fact the only thing that happened in that time is knov teleporting to them.tge fight between meruem and netero started at that time too. We know for a fact the statement with several hundred thousand blow was made a whole chapter after a timeframe of 25 minutes. Even using that we would still have a 10 minute deference prior to the bomb and the other minute. The fight was at the very very least 10 minutes instead of 4.Siiiiiiiigh... Puff started going to the king before the fight even started.
What a god damn nuisance...
Here they are, preparing to fly towards the king.
At this point, Netero didn't even bury Meruem in the tomb where the feat happened.
They started flying there at chapter 290, the fight started at chapter 291, and they got there at chapter 298.
The timeframe didn't come up again until chapter 300, and during chapter 300, 30 minutes passed.
Either way, 15 minutes is still perfectly plausible.
They started far, FAAAR after the 12 minute mark, and arrived far before the 49 minute mark.
GodlyCharmander
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Other than the 11:50 mark, which happens two whole chapters before they start trading blows, any other timeframe you stated is non-existent in the manga.
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A statement of 25:30 was made a chapter prior to the hundreds of thousands of blow statement. The only things that happened between 11:40 and the fight starting was knov appearing and netero using meruems name to get him to fight. If you think that took 10 minutes than idk what to tell you
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That's false.
In the very end chapter 288, we were at the 9 minute mark
At the middle of chapter 289, we were at 11:35 mark.
Nothing happened other than a conversation... Two minutes, lad. So lack of events is definitely not an argument for not a lot of time passing.
Two entire conversations happened between this and when they started flying. The 25 minute mark is indeed true, but again, without a starting timeframe, it's utterly useless
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You still don't have another timeframe don't you?That's false.
In the very end chapter 288, we were at the 9 minute mark
At the middle of chapter 289, we were at 11:35 mark.
Nothing happened other than a conversation... Two minutes, lad. So lack of events is definitely not an argument for not a lot of time passing.
Two entire conversations happened between this and when they started flying. The 25 minute mark is indeed true, but again, without a starting timeframe, it's utterly useless
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Also the same logic should be used for the 25 minute timeframe then doesn't it? So this point is irrelevant againThat's false.
In the very end chapter 288, we were at the 9 minute mark
At the middle of chapter 289, we were at 11:35 mark.
Nothing happened other than a conversation... Two minutes, lad. So lack of events is definitely not an argument for not a lot of time passing.
Two entire conversations happened between this and when they started flying. The 25 minute mark is indeed true, but again, without a starting timeframe, it's utterly useless
GodlyCharmander
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I do. Youpi's 15 minutes. The time marks gives zero input on our overall timeframe. Again, your complain was slightly misguided, you stated yourself that panels are inconsistent with one another, and you saw how fast time passed between each chapter, so assuming they were close to the 11:35 mark when they're in a whole-ass different chapter is very misleading.
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... How? This makes no sense. My point is that the time marks mean nothing because time can pass exceptionally quickly when things are not treated in slow motion. A brief conversation converted in two minutes, two full on conversations happened, therefore the time mark would be immensely higher.
The 25 time mark means nothing because we don't know the starting timeframe.
The 30 and 49 minute marks mean nothing because they already got there two chapters prior.
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The only thing in between was know appearing and netero pressuring meruem with his name. Also 15 minutes is blatantly false. It's only an assumption. Youpi literally sees meruem fly so he can judge how long he takes. Using 15 minutes would be assuming that youpi is even close to post rose meruem in any way
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? The entire scenario with pouf and gon happened between the statement and the time.
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Morel talking to Knuckle, Knuckle having a mental breakdown, Knov showing up, and having another conversation with them.
Puff finding Youpi (assuming it didn't skip time), they having a full on conversation, then preparing to fly.
Then a full conversation with Meruem and Netero.
Debunked this with the Japanese statement already. Booring
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?... And? The 25 minute mark is not being used as a method of comparison.
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The Japanese statement saying we doesn't mean crap man? They literally grappled into meruem. They were flying at his speed therefore. Bro you are so desperate even tho the calc is factually bs
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"The Inclusive Collective in Japanese doesn't mean crap, Youpi made an exact estimate based on thinking about Meruem, Youpi's estimate being inaccurate doesn't debunk him making the estimate to Meruem, it doesn't matter if he only has himself as the timeframe"...
I am desperate, huh?... This is just sapping my energy rapidly, as no one voiced support for... "this", and Ant seems to be leaning towards my counter arguments as of now, I will just focus on the main topic.
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He literally saw meruems speed prior to this. A little fact that you've been looking over for this entire debate to justify your meaningless wank.
GodlyCharmander
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This makes less sense because his estimate was over 67% off.
GodlyCharmander
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If it's not going to bother too much, could you call Dragon again to evaluate this little correction? His input on an end would be vital
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Doesn't mean sht. Being that far off doesn't mean that's the time he took. Why the hell would he be as fast as he estimates meruem to be? Meruem literally absorbed 6/7 of them. For them to be 1/3 of his speed makes no sense. Not only that but you are simply ASSMUMING he took 15 minutes
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Why still try? The crater isn't even 10 meters tall why the hell you suggesting 30If it's not going to bother too much, could you call Dragon again to evaluate this little correction? His input on an end would be vital
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GodlyCharmander
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Why are you speaking like everyone is agreeing with you when it's the polar opposite? What kind of mentality you got? "Force my argument through until it gets accepted"? Please leave the CRT, you are derailing it HARD with these bickering that get in the way of knowledgeable discussions.
I am really losing my temper here, I will inform about your derailing to moderators if you just continue to complain instead of providing evidence or a reasonable argument...
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