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How Strong Is Zeref Dragneel

Here it is said that the fairy heart is infinite and infinite power = h3a someone with infinite power can destroy a flat universe without spacetime , brings together space and time , magic = life energy and infinite magic power = infinite soul resistance , This Magic cannot be learned, but rather, true to its name as a curse, it is brought by Ankhseram to someone who can shed light on the connections between life and death. your honor from here
td2 apart from life and death links , here acno exceeds spacetime=5D 100% power zeref>acnologia zeref=5D possibly
indicates that it is above space and time from here 4d
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I have moved the thread to the correct subforum.
Please make sure not to post it to the wrong subforum next time.
 
If the infinite statements are not exaggerations

His tier should be at least high 3-A
But only if its not a exaggeration
And there is a high possibility for only infinite stamina
Also there is possibly low 2-C but i dont think this is about ap so im not sure


For 5D thing
No
It doesn't work like that
Surpassing Space-time dont make you 5D by default
There is specific ways of transcendance that work for higher D
 
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are the scans with infinite mention real? Not fake?
Yeah they are real. Zeref's Stamina is listed as Infinite in Fairy Heart since it's an infinite source of magic power. We don't consider it an AP thing on the site (clearly). I think it was attempted in a CRT but it was rejected.
 
After reading all the scans
Its only infinite stamina


There is possibility for ap because of this
"Infinite magic power the power of gods that surpass time"
This make it seem like not just stamina but ap too
But im not sure
I still think its stamina because of the first scan and what the other characters say in the last scan
 
Ye, it's infinite magic as a power source that never runs out, not infinite magic output in the form of AP.
yes, but I'm not saying that from infinite magic power, there will be infinite AP anyway, I think zeref should be 2-C immeasurable
 
Here it is said that the fairy heart is infinite and infinite power = h3a someone with infinite power can destroy a flat universe without spacetime , brings together space and time , magic = life energy and infinite magic power = infinite soul resistance , This Magic cannot be learned, but rather, true to its name as a curse, it is brought by Ankhseram to someone who can shed light on the connections between life and death. your honor from here
td2 apart from life and death links , here acno exceeds spacetime=5D 100% power zeref>acnologia zeref=5D possibly
indicates that it is above space and time from here 4d
Screenshot_20221014_201124.jpg

IMG_20221015_205913.jpg

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unknown-169.png
güzel görünüyor ama imme speed lol
 
It is not infinite AP. Most likely infinite stamina.
yes but zeref steals the power of the fairy heart and makes him own power so he gets the infinite power of the fairy heart
 
I am pretty sure that power is not always meant as energy output unless the verse treated it explicitly.
 
A magic power that never runs out = an energy source that never runs out = infinite stamina.
Holding infinite energy doesn't inevitably connote you can release infinite energy output with one blow.
 
A magic power that never runs out = an energy source that never runs out = infinite stamina.
Holding infinite energy doesn't inevitably connote you can release infinite energy output with one blow.
i do not say that it can destroy with infinite energy, i say infinite power, this power is its own power and someone with infinite power can destroy a flat universe.
 
Regardless, that is still an outlier. There are characters in the verse that would scale to this value, that don't have ANY feats nor statements, directly or indirectly stating that they have "infinite Magic Power (AP)". People like Elefseria, Selene, Ignia, Merc, Aldoron etc etc. Natsu and Acno too, of course.
 
i do not say that it can destroy with infinite energy, i say infinite power, this power is its own power and someone with infinite power can destroy a flat universe.
Having infinite power =/= can release infinite energy output with one blow.
 
Fairy Heart does have a very large magical output in one go, but to assume that Zeref is constantly using infinite power with every attack is not supported

If we saw Zeref nuke a Universe in one shot, sure, but until we see that, assuming Zeref is Tier 3 to Tier 2 is just wrong

The higher you go up the tiers, the more evidence you need, and Tier 3 to Tier 2 doesn't have that evidence
 
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