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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

By the way, whats the current consensus on the speed. If we genuinely have no FTL feats for the low tiers, Ima have to pull this out
HSR looks grim for ftl besides chainscaling off Shadow Knight Fu Hua via Welt
HI3 is in a similar boat but Those who scale to Flamescion, Post Elysian Realm Mei, Active Honkai reaction Kevin and Herrscher Elysia or above have the MFTL+ Herrscher Elysia feat to use (post chapter 25 high tiers basically)
 
i make SW tier 0 according to her skill name
They removed it in V3 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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Ok Mei’s thunder authority scans is out of the way too. Ofc added their fixed reason + thunder authority scans to Kevin and Kiana.

Range scans for Mei, Bronya, Kevin and Fu Hua are fixed too
I’ll deal with Otto next
 
I read somewhere that apparently Mei's Origin Authority integrated with all other Herrscher authorities.
Anyone remember anything like this?

Cause if it's real and I go through it she ALSO has the authority of binding which would be hilarious.
 
I read somewhere that apparently Mei's Origin Authority integrated with all other Herrscher authorities.
Anyone remember anything like this?

Cause if it's real and I go through it she ALSO has the authority of binding which would be hilarious.
Mei vs acheron redo
 
Btw Late Ampho AE would still be 3C, right? It's just anything below that is 4-A or 4-C now
 
I guess so since they fought incomplete irontomb.. all roads lead to emanator level highschoolers i guess 💔
I just thought they didn't want to hurt a bunch of brainwashed highschoolers

I do think it's really stupid that TB fell for another memory/illusion thing again but we do know March and Welt were completely fine the entire time (March just wanted to roleplay as a student for some reason 😭)

Or maybe I forgor something and they did get cooked by highschoolers idk
 
I just thought they didn't want to hurt a bunch of brainwashed highschoolers

I do think it's really stupid that TB fell for another memory/illusion thing again but we do know March and Welt were completely fine the entire time (March just wanted to roleplay as a student for some reason 😭)

Or maybe I forgor something and they did get cooked by highschoolers idk
“These fans are too strong” - march 7th
 
I just thought they didn't want to hurt a bunch of brainwashed highschoolers

I do think it's really stupid that TB fell for another memory/illusion thing again but we do know March and Welt were completely fine the entire time (March just wanted to roleplay as a student for some reason 😭)
march only got out of it after they beat skott unless im forgetting som dialog
 
“These fans are too strong” - march 7th
In all seriousness I'm not one to argue on literary definitions but that quote could mean that said fans are simply too strong to be normal fans, or that they're simply unordinary, not that they're stronger than the main cast who are likely holding back.

Anyway now that these fans are stronger than the main cast, which I will happily support because it's hilarious, please include some trivia or references to all this nonsense on their page 😭
This bit is genuinely hilarious and it needs to be referenced
 
Mei vs acheron redo
Macro Quantum deconstruction on every hit and lightning bolt prob just negs no?
So HoT would be enough

Edit: I just remembered HoT can simply cut off someone’s link to IS and power null em. The paths do stem from imaginary space so.
 
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In all seriousness I'm not one to argue on literary definitions but that quote could mean that said fans are simply too strong to be normal fans, or that they're simply unordinary, not that they're stronger than the main cast who are likely holding back.

Anyway now that these fans are stronger than the main cast, which I will happily support because it's hilarious, please include some trivia or references to all this nonsense on their page 😭
This bit is genuinely hilarious and it needs to be referenced
I already knew how awkward the scaling would be post-Ampho, before 4.0



I was right.
 
I really don't see how this was always a foregone conclusion. The writers kinda just flopped with high schoolers.
I called it obvious because we 4v1 an Emanator. Unless the writers are constantly pitting us against Emanators (who we haven't faced yet in Planarcadia), it's going to end up being weird to see the cast struggle to non-emanator folks. Maybe if this were Pre-Ampho or Penacony, then the high school bit wouldn't be awkward at all. The writers kinda shot themselves in the foot by giving us an absurdly powerful foe this early in the plot. This leaves future opponents being much stronger than they honestly deserve.
 
I called it obvious because we 4v1 an Emanator. Unless the writers are constantly pitting us against Emanators (who we haven't faced yet in Planarcadia), it's going to end up being weird to see the cast struggle to non-emanator folks. Maybe if this were Pre-Ampho or Penacony, then the high school bit wouldn't be awkward at all. The writers kinda shot themselves in the foot by giving us an absurdly powerful foe this early in the plot. This leaves future opponents being much stronger than they honestly deserve.
weren't we amped by Cyrene or something (don't really remember). March and DH were also using different forms (Evernight/Permansor Terrae respectively)
 
weren't we amped by Cyrene or something (don't really remember). March and DH were also using different forms (Evernight/Permansor Terrae respectively)
Incomplete Irontomb. We weren't amped by Cyrene until it became completed

Also, the form thing makes it worse. There is literally no reason for March and Dan Heng to hold back like that. Also, TB is relative to them, so TB struggling agaisnt low-scale threats looks really bad for March and Dan Heng anyway.
 
Where will Ambrosial Arbor Phantylia scale after the revision?
Her scaling goes unchanged it’s mainly people chainscaling off her that get downgraded to Dan Heng’s 4-C (besides lightning lord)

weren't we amped by Cyrene or something (don't really remember). March and DH were also using different forms (Evernight/Permansor Terrae respectively)
That’s the problem cause why ain’t they transforming? Dan Heng has confirmed he can use the coreflame of earth just fine
 
I called it obvious because we 4v1 an Emanator. Unless the writers are constantly pitting us against Emanators (who we haven't faced yet in Planarcadia), it's going to end up being weird to see the cast struggle to non-emanator folks. Maybe if this were Pre-Ampho or Penacony, then the high school bit wouldn't be awkward at all. The writers kinda shot themselves in the foot by giving us an absurdly powerful foe this early in the plot. This leaves future opponents being much stronger than they honestly deserve.

Yeah but the writers control who we face and their method of strength. They can do LITERALLY ANYTHING, as long as it's believable.
The high schoolers bit wouldn't have even been believable in the Xianzhou though.

They didn't screw up by making us fight Emanators. They screwed up by making the express struggle with high schoolers. What they did just wasn't believable and was quite frankly kinda dumb, anyone else however, they could find ways to make believable and introduce enemies of similar strengths, lol.
 
I wish we had a sandbox for scaling, I can't keep track of these things. T_T
not having a scaling sandbox is def why HSR revisions get bogged down in where people are getting downgraded to😭

Yeah but the writers control who we face and their method of strength. They can do LITERALLY ANYTHING, as long as it's believable.
The high schoolers bit wouldn't have even been believable in the Xianzhou though.

They didn't screw up by making us fight Emanators. They screwed up by making the express struggle with high schoolers. What they did just wasn't believable and was quite frankly kinda dumb, anyone else however, they could find ways to make believable and introduce enemies of similar strengths, lol.
Thats a fair take. Ts really reminds me of my frustrations watching CW Flash. Ideally the writers if you’re going to make the characters so powerful then put them up against enemies who can get around that strength or hax. Or give some good reason on why the characters aren’t as strong as before (it’s dumb Dan Heng can transform anytime and genuinely doesn’t for little reason). Using bleach as an example, Ginjo is much weaker than Aizen and came after him. But the stakes were pretty believable.
HSR writers could do the same if they had that sauce instead of constant escalation.
 
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