Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[Furudo_Erika]

Question:
What are your thoughts on an Effect Hit Rate body on Pela?

I won't be using her for DPS really, so I don't really need Crit Rate/DMG or ATK%. And HP%/DEF%/Healing% are pretty much useless. Which that just leaves Effect Hit Rate left.

With Effect Hit Rate, Pela could freeze targets more often and delay their turns, which sounds the most useful with how I am building Pela with SPD and ER.

 

[Woomica]

Question:
What are your thoughts on an Effect Hit Rate body on Pela?

I won't be using her for DPS really, so I don't really need Crit Rate/DMG or ATK%. And HP%/DEF%/Healing% are pretty much useless. Which that just leaves Effect Hit Rate left.

With Effect Hit Rate, Pela could freeze targets more often and delay their turns, which sounds the most useful with how I am building Pela with SPD and ER.

Thats afaik go to piece for her i also run sw 1.1 lightcone and honestly it slaps

 

[Furudo_Erika]

Thats afaik go to piece for her i also run sw 1.1 lightcone and honestly it slaps

If you mean her 5-star LC, then I don't have that.

Though "Before the Tutorial Mission Starts" would also be good for Pela, as it increases Effect Hit Rate, and restores Energy whenever you hit a DEF-debuffed enemy. But, I don't think I have that one either.

But I run "Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat" on Pela, which has a chance to lower DEF on a hit (which can be any hit, which pairs very well with Pela's Ult that is AoE and can give an additional DEF debuff separate from the lightcone's. So, there can be two separate DEF debuffs on all enemies)

 

[Woomica]

If you mean her 5-star LC, then I don't have that.

Though "Before the Tutorial Mission Starts" would also be good for Pela, as it increases Effect Hit Rate, and restores Energy whenever you hit a DEF-debuffed enemy. But, I don't think I have that one either.

But I run "Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat" on Pela, which has a chance to lower DEF on a hit (which can be any hit, which pairs very well with Pela's Ult that is AoE and can give an additional DEF debuff separate from the lightcone's)

I was talking abt before the tutorial mission starts
As for luka's lc i dont have s5 and im lazy to lvl it up

 

[Furudo_Erika]

I was talking abt before the tutorial mission starts
As for luka's lc i dont have s5 and im lazy to lvl it up

Oof.

Yeah, Before the Tutorial Mission Starts would be good (if I had it, but I don't). So, I run Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat in its place, which is still a pretty good LC for Pela.

Now I only have it s2, so it's not the best can it can be...but it is the best lc I have for Pela at the moment.

 

[Furudo_Erika]

Sadly, Before the Tutorial Mission Starts is event-exclusive, so I can't get it.

Unless, Hoyoverse decides to rerun the event, or make the lc available though Herta's shop or something...other than that, it's cannot be gotten.

 

[Jackpact]

Just got through 2.0 quest, SUTD and Sam are probably the best designed boss so far for me, both have good gimmick that can be play around and isn't too oppresive as far as the damage go, Sam is a bit much but nothing consumable and 2 well build preservation characters (which i only have 1) can't fix, the few death i have with SUTD are purely out of missplay while Sam just stat check my team so can't help with that.

 

[Furudo_Erika]

This was my exact experience with Aventurine. My Gepard will have nightmares failing every gamble.

 

[Gonzalo]

I am looking forward to start Star Rail profiles, I would like to know your opinion when the Sandbox edition starts.

 

[V999]

This was my exact experience with Aventurine. My Gepard will have nightmares failing every gamble.

I managed to beat Aventurine with Trailblazer (Physical) + Kafka + March + Natasha, before he got nerfed

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

So, I finally managed to get Acheron and a very good build for her (74% Crit Rate and 172 Crit Dmg), she is dealing such massive damage that I didn't expected to her to one-shot a nearly full health bar from all bosses in the Simulated Universe's worlds even without her main Lightcone, she exceeded my expectations.

I am not that much interested in Boothill, but the birb waifu's design, ultimate and overall kit are very atractive for me, but I will wait for the official livestream first to see her finished gameplay and kit.

Well, if Robin doesn't satisfy me, I will just wait for Firefly/Sam or Silver Wolf's future rerun denpending on my needs in the future

 

[Woomica]

So, I finally managed to get Acheron and a very good build for her (74% Crit Rate and 172 Crit Dmg), she is dealing such massive damage that I didn't expected to her to one-shot a nearly full health bar from all bosses in the Simulated Universe's worlds even without her main Lightcone, she exceeded my expectations.

Acheron carried me in moc she is just insane

I am not that much interested in Boothill, but the birb waifu's design, ultimate and overall kit are very atractive for me, but I will wait for the official livestream first to see her finished gameplay and kit.

Ill skip him sincei have a lot of dps and i want aventurine since he is well written and amazing shielded

Well, if Robin doesn't satisfy me, I will just wait for Firefly/Sam or Silver Wolf's future rerun denpending on my needs in the future

One robin pic looks like my ex (im probably insane and schizophrenic) and firefly/sam is a must pull

 

[GarrixianXD]

Kevin Kaslana black hole creation

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Avengershows]

Kevin Kaslana black hole creation

vsbattles.fandom.com

I don't know HOW you got Bronya at 14 px, because she's just straight up not

 

[Furudo_Erika]

I don't know HOW you got Bronya at 14 px, because she's just straight up not

I also refuse to believe that thing is 97.5m in radius (195m diameter).

This is what I got

 

[Naito-desu]

Garrixian is off by a factor of 10

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I also refuse to believe that thing is 97.5m in radius (195m diameter).

This is what I got

The image ain't there it seems

 

[Furudo_Erika]

The image ain't there it seems

Which image?

 

[Furudo_Erika]

Also, what's the reasoning behind using thermodynamics rather than using solar mass for the yield?

 

[Woomica]

No one knows

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Which image?

Nvm, when you said "This is what I got" I thought you were referring an image, my bad.

 

[Naito-desu]

I also refuse to believe that thing is 97.5m in radius (195m diameter).

This is what I got

That would make this about 5.3 meters in diamater

 

[Furudo_Erika]

That would make this about 5.3 meters in diamater

Which looks a lot more reasonable than a 97.5m radius, lol

 

[GarrixianXD]

I don't know HOW you got Bronya at 14 px, because she's just straight up not

Thought that was a part of her herrscher gear. My mistake on that part but I doubt it’s gonna change the results much.

Also, what's the reasoning behind using thermodynamics rather than using solar mass for the yield?

I’m not the person who pulls out random numbers from my ass. I’m unsure how they calculated that way nor I’m interested.

 

[Furudo_Erika]

Thought that was a part of her herrscher gear. My mistake on that part but I doubt it’s gonna change the results much.

I’m not the person who pulls out random numbers from my ass. I’m unsure how they calculated that way nor I’m interested.

Basically just correspond solar mass to 4-C

Example:
1 solar mass = Baseline 4-C
2 solar mass = 2x 4-C
10 solar mass = 10x 4-C
0.5 solar mass = 0.5x 4-C
0.1 solar mass = 0.1x 4-C
And so on

 

[GarrixianXD]

Basically just correspond solar mass to 4-C

Example:
1 solar mass = Baseline 4-C
2 solar mass = 2x 4-C
10 solar mass = 10x 4-C
0.5 solar mass = 0.5x 4-C
0.1 solar mass = 0.1x 4-C
And so on

oh so GBE. That's only rudimentary, so I decided to take it to the next level.

 

[Woomica]

oh so GBE. That's only rudimentary, so I decided to take it to the next level.

W...what level

 

[Avengershows]

Thought that was a part of her herrscher gear. My mistake on that part but I doubt it’s gonna change the results much

She's not 14 px tall in that scan.
And it absolutely will change the result, the black hole ain't 900 meters dawg

 

[GarrixianXD]

I updated the calculation. Spoilers alert: not much changed at all.

Kevin Kaslana black hole creation

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Furudo_Erika]

I updated the calculation. Spoilers alert: not much changed at all.

Kevin Kaslana black hole creation

vsbattles.fandom.com

You used diameter, not radius.
The diameter is 6.15m, so radius would be 3.075m

And not to be "that" person, but I'm pretty sure you would need a good explanation to why you used thermodynamics, as I NEVER see that used for black holes; I only see solar mass used as that is what is defaulted.

 

[Furudo_Erika]

With a Schwarzschild radius of 3.075m, it would have a mass of 0.001041 solar masses, or 2.07e+27 kg
Which would correspond to 5.926e+38 joules, or High 5-A.

Though it may be a huge LS upgrade for HI3 (Pre-Stellar LS), as it seems like Kebin throws the black hole.

 

[Woomica]

With a Schwarzschild radius of 3.075m, it would have a mass of 0.001041 solar masses, or 2.07e+27 kg
Which would correspond to 5.926e+38 joules, or High 5-A.

Though it may be a huge LS upgrade for HI3 (Pre-Stellar LS), as it seems like Kebin throws the black hole.

I suggest using one with wordly beast at a glance it seems quite larger

 

[Furudo_Erika]

I suggest using one with wordly beast at a glance it seems quite larger

No idea what that is

 

[GarrixianXD]

You used diameter, not radius.
The diameter is 6.15m, so radius would be 3.075m

Half of the black hole is already sunken into the ground, so no, it's the radius.

And not to be "that" person, but I'm pretty sure you would need a good explanation to why you used thermodynamics, as I NEVER see that used for black holes; I only see solar mass used as that is what is defaulted.

Because it covers the quantum aspects of gravity and stabilises the theories, which simple GBE formulas do not.

 

[Woomica]

No idea what that is

This one

 

[Furudo_Erika]

Half of the black hole is already sunken into the ground, so no, it's the radius.

Because it covers the quantum aspects of gravity and stabilises the theories, which simple GBE formulas do not.

In my pixel scale, I did the entire black hole's width and it would have been 5.3m in diameter.

I mean, I was off a bit with scaling the leggear of Bronya, but it wouldn't be that large a difference, if I didn't scale the leggear, I can probably see 6.15m as the whole width instead.

 

[Avengershows]

Half of the black hole is already sunken into the ground, so no, it's the radius.

I also refuse to believe that thing is 97.5m in radius (195m diameter).

This is what I got

Accoridng to this, where we see the entire radius, it'd be 6.2007874 (I subtracted 20 px due to the heels) meters in diameter, aka 3.1 meters in radius

 

[Furudo_Erika]

Accoridng to this, where we see the entire radius, it'd be 6.2007874 (I subtracted 20 px due to the heels) meters in diameter, aka 3.1 meters in radius

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That's a bad arrow

But yes, that does like up with what I said the radius would actually be.

 

[Avengershows]

I don't think this feat would generally be accepted due to the fact that the black hole hits the ground and explodes into purple mist

 

[Naito-desu]

Ngl the og calc feels inflated based on a few assumptions that I feel should not be made, so I'm more comfortable with the version that Furudo and avengershows are proposing