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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

hey ummm.. i remember someone (cant remember who) saying that since the sea of quanta wasnt a thing in the anti entropy vn that it wasnt talking about it's dimensions and therefore shouldnt be qualified for the cosmology. but Franklin in the same vn talks about "that eleven dimensional spacetime" confirming he sea of quanta was a known thing at the time. so would the thing carl said about dimensions be true?
 
Mbpoops said:
hey ummm.. i remember someone (cant remember who) saying that since the sea of quanta wasnt a thing in the anti entropy vn that it wasnt talking about it's dimensions and therefore shouldnt be qualified for the cosmology. but Franklin in the same vn talks about "that eleven dimensional spacetime" confirming he sea of quanta was a known thing at the time. so would the thing carl said about dimensions be true?
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And Franklin talked about it being 10 dimensional space and 1 dimensional time, really nothing about this is compactified whatsoever
 
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As such, they're capable of manifesting the maximal potential of Imaginary Space which corresponds to their concept into Real Space
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Shouldn't it be Imaginary Energy and not imaginary space?
 
Super_Nova said:
It’s in a strange situation since it hasn’t been decided whether or not to make it BDE1 or just remove it
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But isn't the one that got accepted is "Possibly Low 1-A"?, if it's legit BDE type 2 then it's legit Low 1-A too, but it isn't.
 
Super_Nova said:
What does this have to do with my comment
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Everytime I proposed salvation you disagreed
Make physical plane 6-D and Path Space 7-D so Aeons are superior than Emanators and Emanators are superior than high-level honkai mfs, but you disagreed

Make it BDE1, but you agreed with a removal (despite it being accepted to be BDE1 multiple times)
 
Voidnether said:
Everytime I proposed salvation you disagreed
Make physical plane 6-D and Path Space 7-D so Aeons are superior than Emanators and Emanators are superior than high-level honkai mfs, but you disagreed

Make it BDE1, but you agreed with a removal (despite it being accepted to be BDE1 multiple times)
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Actually, improving them is quite difficult if there is no basis for why they are placed in a higher tier.

I even wonder why emanators can increase their tier to the same level as aeons just because they use the same path? Actually, what needs to be fixed is the emanator's tier, remove their tier 1 and the problem is solved, because using the same path as aeons does not make them have the same tier, if that is the only justification used, I don't think so.
 
Furina003 said:
Actually, improving them is quite difficult if there is no basis for why they are placed in a higher tier.

I even wonder why emanators can increase their tier to the same level as aeons just because they use the same path? Actually, what needs to be fixed is the emanator's tier, remove their tier 1 and the problem is solved, because using the same path as aeons does not make them have the same tier, if that is the only justification used, I don't think so.
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Wtf am I reading. I did NOT JUST MAKE A CRT to re do the Emanators justification just for some dude to YAP about them being Aeon level bro.
 
Furina003 said:
Actually, improving them is quite difficult if there is no basis for why they are placed in a higher tier.

I even wonder why emanators can increase their tier to the same level as aeons just because they use the same path? Actually, what needs to be fixed is the emanator's tier, remove their tier 1 and the problem is solved, because using the same path as aeons does not make them have the same tier, if that is the only justification used, I don't think so.
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??? You know what I will do? I will make it scale physically to Tier 1 instead of removing Tier 1.
 
Super_Nova said:
If its the entirety then L1C is fine ig
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Honkai Energy is a phenomena with its origin being<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...act_3rd;_Story_Chapter_XXVIII:_Beyond_Will-38"><span>[</span>38<span>]</span></a> the Imaginary Space,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Divine_Key5-39"><span>[</span>39<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...act_3rd;_Story_Chapter_XXVIII:_Beyond_Will-38"><span>[</span>38<span>]</span></a> with the latter existing beyond the Sea of Quanta,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Story_Chapter_XV-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...act_3rd;_Story_Chapter_XXVIII:_Beyond_Will-38"><span>[</span>38<span>]</span></a> being infinite even in a transfinite sense<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Honkai_Impact_3rd;_Story_Chapter_XXXIV:_The_Moon's_Origin_and_Finality-139"><span>[</span>137<span>]</span></a> as absolute infinity.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-165"><span>[</span>See Notes 3<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...rd_Art_Collection_Vol.1:_Trails_of_Comets-166"><span>[</span>163<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...act_3rd;_Story_Chapter_XXVIII:_Beyond_Will-38"><span>[</span>38<span>]</span></a> Furthermore, Honkai energy also supports the Sea of Quanta<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Hi3ColPart_2-50"><span>[</span>49<span>]</span></a> and the Ether Archor, with the latter being 11-dimensional,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...-Durandal_Visual_Novel:_Chapter_2,_Part_3-167"><span>[</span>164<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...-Durandal_Visual_Novel:_Chapter_3,_Part_1-168"><span>[</span>165<span>]</span></a> with higher-dimensions and its inhabitants being capable of easily destroying lower-dimensional realms as if they were a book and are completely unaffected by everything coming from them,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Alien_Space,_Chapter_15:_Alien_Key-169"><span>[</span>166<span>]</span></a> with Honkai also having a connection with it.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-AE_Visual_Novel:_Chapter_23,_Part_3-170"><span>[</span>167<span>]</span></a> La Nina was also able to corrode and destroy the Ether Anchor using her Honkai energy.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...Durandal_Visual_Novel:_Chapter_30,_Part_1-112"><span>[</span>111<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...rd;_Story_Chapter_XXV-EX:_Immortal_Blades-105"><span>[</span>104<span>]</span></a>

High-level users of Honkai Energy draw it directly from the Sea of Quanta,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/H...3rd;_Story_Chapter_XI:_Deep_End_of_the_Sea-43"><span>[</span>42<span>]</span></a> and they have enough Honkai resistance to withstand the Sea,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Story_Chapter_XII-171"><span>[</span>168<span>]</span></a> furthermore, this resistance is what allows the manipulation of Honkai energy,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Azure_Waters_6-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a> with such mastery enabling its user to BFR people to the Sea of Quanta.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Azure_Waters_6-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Azure_Waters7-102"><span>[</span>101<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Energy#cite_note-Azure_Waters8-103"><span>[</span>102<span>]</span></a> For more information about Honkai Energy layers and who gets it, check this blog. For better and more detailed explanation about the cosmology, check this one.

Honkai Energy qualifies for Hyperverse level (1-B) potency and resistances due to its nature and feats listed above; And High Complex Multiverse level (High 1-C) range as its users can BFR things to the Sea of Quanta, users can also draw and resist Honkai energy from the same realms as a support evidence.
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Honkai Energy

The Honkai is a cosmic force of nature that pervades the shared multiverse of Honkai Impact 3rd. Honkai Energy is the main byproduct of all manifestations of the Honkai across universes. Sufficient concentrations of Honkai Energy radiation can cause several adverse effects on all living beings...
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