Homulily vs Kratos

[PaChi2]

Just mentioning that if kratos goes all out against a little girl from the start, Im gonna call shenanigans.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Kratos'a counters for BFR ain't counters, tbh. Those won't work on that.

That said, no mind hax Homu loses to Kratos due to all those other reasons.

 

[Kepekley23]

Kratos's type of Time-Travel actually counters BFR.

Anyway, no, Kratos ain't going all-out on a little girl from the start. That's actually a good point.

 

[Theglassman12]

Kratos should take this for the reasons stated above.

 

[PaChi2]

Kratos's type of Time-Travel actually counters BFR.

Anyway, no, Kratos ain't going all-out on a little girl from the start. That's actually a good point.

Its 2-A level BFR, son. U sure?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Kratos's type of Time-Travel actually counters BFR.

Anyway, no, Kratos ain't going all-out on a little girl from the start. That's actually a good point.

How though? I mean, again, Kratos still wins, but how does it Counter BFR, let alone Homura's?

 

[Kaltias]

Theoretically, Mewtwo could beat her, given he resists mindhax that could affect a tier 2. However, his tier 2 actually resists Tier 2 mindhax, and conceptual mindhax at that, so it does count for more.

It doesn't work like that unless you are saying that Uxie can mindfuck Madoka, which he cannot do.

@PaChi

Restricting powers like that isn't allowed

 

[PaChi2]

Restricting one single ability? >_>

Ygg's summoninh gets restricted all the time. In fact I had to especifically allow it in the thread.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Captain America: Language!

I mean, I kinda am saying that, but she looks in Uxie's general direction and Uxie's dead. No different than pretty much anyone haxxing UI Goku. They're still on the same dimensional plane despite the power gap.

 

[Kepekley23]

If it's 2-A level, no, it ain't working

 

[EliminatorVenom]

I feel this isn't the place to ask, but why would mindhaxxing a tier 2 greater than mindhaxxing, say, 100 billion normal 3D humans?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bro, Madoka being immune to haxes under 2-A is like saying Goku is immune to haxes below tier 2.

 

[PaChi2]

I feel this isn't the place to ask, but why would mindhaxxing a tier 2 greater than mindhaxxing, say, 100 billion normal 3D humans?

A tier 2 is by default 4D, that makes it superior to infinite 3D?

 

[Kaltias]

The difference is Madoka being quite literally a consciousness the size of two infinite multiverses.

That's > 2-B mind hax

 

[Rocker1189]

A tier 2 is by default 4D, that makes it superior to infinite 3D?

But why does that mean that mind haxing them is better. Being superior in existence does not have anything to do with your mind. A 4-D can be weaker than a normal human depending on how you interprete it. In fact a 4-Ds weakness could be mindhax for all you know.

 

[Schnee_One]

I feel this isn't the place to ask, but why would mindhaxxing a tier 2 greater than mindhaxxing, say, 100 billion normal 3D humans?

A 2A is infinitely above 100 billion normal humans.

Now I know it's usually quantity over quality with Mind screw.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

A tier 2 is by default 4D, that makes it superior to infinite 3D?

But we're talking about minds here, why would the mind of such a being be superior to a 3D?

Btw, if I start derailing the thread, feel free to delete my comments. I could ask about that in a more suitable place.

 

[Rocker1189]

But we're talking about minds here, why would the mind of such a being be superior to a 3D?

Btw, if I start derailing the thread, feel free to delete my comments. I could ask about that in a more suitable place.

Good questions I have been planning to ask this for a while now.

 

[Kaltias]

Mindhaxing Madoka = mindhaxing all the magical girls absorbed by her anyway.

That's infinite people

 

[Kepekley23]

Her mindhax is restricted, so that's irrelevant.

How many votes does Kratos have as of now?

 

[Rocker1189]

Mindhaxing Madoka = mindhaxing all the magical girls absorbed by her anyway.
That's infinite people

Madoka absorbed an infinte number of people?

 

[PaChi2]

4 Kratos votes. I believe.

 

[Schnee_One]

If this somehow isn't a stomp, Kratos FRA

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Still 4-D, bro, with no resistance to 4-D mindhax, and all the magical girls absorbed (Shudders. Sounds like a horrible fate) is 3-D hax.

 

[Peter1129]

Would Homulily's Memory Manipulation help here?

 

[PaChi2]

Actually, it's 6 Kratos votes... lol

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Pretty sure Madoka is like heaven or something

Her "absorbing" the souls of magical girls is like bringing them to the afterlife

 

[Kepekley23]

@EliminatorVenom

You should probably make a staff thread about it. You're allowed to comment since you're the one who asked the question in the first place.

But for now, her mindhax is restricted.

 

[PaChi2]

And before the "You can't restrict abilitirs like that":

Genjutsu gets restricted all the time

Kyoka suigetsu gets restricted all the time

Parasito or awakening gets restricted for Doflaming

So tell me why something like 2-A level mind hax being restricted is wrong when several other MUCH weaker forms of mindhax get that treatment.

 

[Rocker1189]

Why a staff thread... I kind of want to put my views on it too.

 

[Kepekley23]

Well, it can be a questions and answers thread.

 

[Kaltias]

Not sure why everyone is voting, this one isn't getting added.

It's like all the Esdeath matches removed because they banned time stop

@Cal

Still need to affect her throughout all the infinite multiverse due to sheer size.

@Monarch

They become a part of her consciousness and are turned into her assistants according to the Rebellion Production Notes.

 

[Kepekley23]

Banning abilities is allowed. This can get added.

 

[PaChi2]

I already gave you examples of matches added with restricted abilities.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

That falls under range, and while Madoka's that big, her consciousness is still a singular being. Amitabha isn't less of a target for Sidious due to his size.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah but Amitabha's mind is kinda universes away from Sidious.

 

[Rocker1189]

Err the Almighty was restricted in a lot of matches and they were still added. I dont see how this can not be added.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I really dislike restricting abilities like this in all honesty to skew things for a characters to win. If it was an AP thing I understand, but hax? I do not. There is a difference between restricting summons and restricting someone's haxes. Also to correct you, Ygg's summoning was never used simply because we never though much of it until recently. Not that it wasn't allowed.

 

[Kaltias]

@PaChi

And I gave you examples of matches removed for that exact reason

 

[Kepekley23]

Yhwach's Almighty is restricted in two thirds of his matches