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Fighting skills for Homelander have been refused twice (https://vsbattles.com/threads/homelander-and-the-deep-the-boys-tv-show-additions.158495/, https://vsbattles.com/threads/most-...der-skills-upgrade-and-possibly-stats.161408/) and here is a third attempt with more elaborate arguments:
- Fought Butcher () who has H2H skill thanks to his past as a member of the SAS and an official statement that says he is an expert in hand-to-hand combat.
- Fought Soldier Boy (same video as above) who has H2H skill thanks to his military past (He didn't fight in WW2 but in black ops during the 60s and 70s and he's skilled with guns and knives throwing, so he clearly learned military skills) and his fight against Butcher.
- Fought Soldier Boy and Butcher simultaneously (same video as above)
- Fought Queen Maeve () who has H2H skill because she was one of the best students of the Godolkin University's School of Crimefighting (where students learn to fight) and because we saw her training during S1.
To support these arguments and explain why Homelander knows how to fight, in a Homelander's flashback during the episode 8 of The Boys Diabolical (this episode is one of the three episodes of The Boys Diabolical considered canon to the main show by Eric Kripke), we see him as a child fighting against a adult Supes stronger than him (). This perhaps suggests that Vought made Kid Homelander fight several times against other Supes to test his strength, and gradually he learned how to fight.
The main counter-argument that has been used against this addition is that "Homelander is stronger than these three characters, so he does not need to be a skilled fighter to stand up to them". Well, yes, Homelander is undoubtedly stronger than these three characters, but the AP gap is not significant (Soldier Boy is even described as near as strong as Homelander). If Homelander was unskilled, Butcher, Soldier Boy and Maeve would have defeated him.
- Fought Butcher () who has H2H skill thanks to his past as a member of the SAS and an official statement that says he is an expert in hand-to-hand combat.
- Fought Soldier Boy (same video as above) who has H2H skill thanks to his military past (He didn't fight in WW2 but in black ops during the 60s and 70s and he's skilled with guns and knives throwing, so he clearly learned military skills) and his fight against Butcher.
- Fought Soldier Boy and Butcher simultaneously (same video as above)
- Fought Queen Maeve () who has H2H skill because she was one of the best students of the Godolkin University's School of Crimefighting (where students learn to fight) and because we saw her training during S1.
To support these arguments and explain why Homelander knows how to fight, in a Homelander's flashback during the episode 8 of The Boys Diabolical (this episode is one of the three episodes of The Boys Diabolical considered canon to the main show by Eric Kripke), we see him as a child fighting against a adult Supes stronger than him (). This perhaps suggests that Vought made Kid Homelander fight several times against other Supes to test his strength, and gradually he learned how to fight.
The main counter-argument that has been used against this addition is that "Homelander is stronger than these three characters, so he does not need to be a skilled fighter to stand up to them". Well, yes, Homelander is undoubtedly stronger than these three characters, but the AP gap is not significant (Soldier Boy is even described as near as strong as Homelander). If Homelander was unskilled, Butcher, Soldier Boy and Maeve would have defeated him.
