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LoyalservantofInti said:
Okay Kirby should win due to being more versatile, although at a strength disadvantage.
Just saying he's more versatile is a completely vague answer.

Honestly as far as haxes goes I don't remember having all that many that were really effective.

And compared to most hax users Kirby has to switch between entire transformations to get access to certain abilities instead of being able to use multiple abilities at once.

Hit could just attack Kirby while he's transforming or before he gets the chance to transform honestly.

I don't think Hit needs to use any of his haxes to win but if he did use his haxes it would just be a godstomp beyond godstomps since Kirby has no way of reaching Hit in his pocket dimension (he'd just be stuck flailing at Hit's energy clone, doing no damage) whereas Hit can send universe level+ intangible/invisible shockwaves at him while still in the pocket dimension.

Hit's timestop/time storing as well basically makes it so he can get a free hit on Kirby with no danger to himself. And one attack is all Hit would need to fodderize Kirby.
 
I don't know if this has been discussed in or out of the thread, I thought Kirby couldn't eat enemies too much larger than himself, both in and out of the games? He's only 8 inches tall, Hits at least the size of a grown human. Not that Kirby needs it in the fight, but Xenon mentioned that Hit wouldn't be affected by Inhale, and from everything I've seen with Kirby he wouldn't be wrong.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
It would take more than one attack, Kirby can fight back a universe devouring curtain with his own might.
Isn't that just space-time hax resistance? Or did the curtain devour the universe all at once and he pushed it back after it did that?

Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
 
Xenonolon said:
Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
Hit is most certainly not Universe level+
 
Xenonolon said:
Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
Universe level+ is for beings who can destroy/create a Universal Space-Time Continuum, Hit isn't anywhere near that
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Xenonolon said:
Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
Hit is most certainly not Universe level+
He's above base Goku with god ki (who is universal). I don't know what other term you'd use for being far above baseline universe level other than universe level+.
 
Not to be rude but your wanking Hit very hard. If he was Universe+ he'd be Low 2-C which no one in the verse except FZ and Zeno are reaching (for now anyway).
 
Xenonolon said:
He's above base Goku with god ki (who is universal). I don't know what other term you'd use for being far above baseline universe level other than universe level+.
You would still use Universe level unless he destroyed the entire spacetime continuum or fought someone who did, Hit is nowhere near that level.
 
Ultima Reality said:
Xenonolon said:
Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
Universe level+ is for beings who can destroy/create a Universal Space-Time Continuum, Hit isn't anywhere near that
Base Vegeta with God Ki destroyed the HTC from the inside in the future trunks arc. He'd have to destroy space-time to do that. Hit's pocket dimension that he created is also made up of space-time.
 
Xenonolon said:
Base Vegeta with God Ki destroyed the HTC from the inside in the future trunks arc. He'd have to destroy space-time to do that. Hit's pocket dimension that he created is also made up of space-time.
Which neither are anywhere near Universal space-times, especially Hits small pocket dimension.
 
Iron Kirby said:
No he wouldn't. The HTC was only physically destroyed. Stop wanking.
How am I wanking? Why would Vegeta leave the time chamber and blow it up? it's pretty clear the time chamber was destroyed from the inside as Vegeta powered up during training. Vegeta was sweating profusely, and he was in the area the time chamber would be located.
 
Xenonolon said:
Base Vegeta with God Ki destroyed the HTC from the inside in the future trunks arc. He'd have to destroy space-time to do that. Hit's pocket dimension that he created is also made up of space-time.
The HTC is only planet sized. Destroying it is not a hax feat.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Xenonolon said:
Base Vegeta with God Ki destroyed the HTC from the inside in the future trunks arc. He'd have to destroy space-time to do that. Hit's pocket dimension that he created is also made up of space-time.
Which neither are anywhere near Universal space-times, especially Hits small pocket dimension.
Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
 
Xenonolon said:
Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
Because that is an assumption since Hit has not yet shown to be capable of doing so.
 
Does Hit have a way to counter being possessed by Ghost Kirby? Kirby could just possess Hit and make him beat himself to death. Not sure if Kirby would do that in character, but given the fact he's willing to eat people alive I wouldn't put it past him.

Also still wanna know if Kirby being unable to inhale people much larger than him in most media is considered PIS or not.
 
@Joseph and Xenonolon If you could avoid quoting big walls of text, it'd be most appreciated, try to stick to the part you are replying to.
 
Xenonolon said:
Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
Because destroying pocket dimension is unquantifiable. However the point is moot since Vegeta didn't destroy any spacetime, the HTC is bounded and only plnetary in size
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Xenonolon said:
Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
Because that is an assumption since Hit has not yet shown to be capable of doing so.
Ki/God Ki at a certain level grants the ability to destroy space-time. Hit should have more Ki/God Ki than Base Vegeta.
 
Joseph619 said:
Xenonolon said:
Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
Because destroying pocket dimension is unquantifiable. However the point is moot since Vegeta didn't destroy any spacetime, the HTC is bounded and only plnetary in size
Why would it being "bounded" stop it from having its own space-time? It clearly has mass/material within it and it's time goes much slower than the DB universe's time.
 
Everybody, if you disagree with the stats of any character here, make a content revision thread, do not discuss the ratings of it here in the Vs thread. If this derailing continues I will close this thread.

Also, please stop quoting each other, just do this, @(insertnamehere), when you want to properly address someone
 
DerpCity said:
Does Hit have a way to counter being possessed by Ghost Kirby? Kirby could just possess Hit and make him beat himself to death. Not sure if Kirby would do that in character, but given the fact he's willing to eat people alive I wouldn't put it past him.
Also still wanna know if Kirby being unable to inhale people much larger than him in most media is considered PIS or not.
Hit's intangible/invisible shockwave should hit Ghost Kirby just fine. And if Kirby tried to possess Hit he could just go into his pocket dimension and let Kirby try over and over to possess his energy clone even though it doesn't have a soul to take over.
 
@Stick This was made during Kirby's temporary buff to 3-A. Now I'm not sure what Kirby can do outside of Ghost.
 
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