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my vote goes to kirby aswell due some hax and versatility
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Just saying he's more versatile is a completely vague answer.LoyalservantofInti said:Okay Kirby should win due to being more versatile, although at a strength disadvantage.
Isn't that just space-time hax resistance? Or did the curtain devour the universe all at once and he pushed it back after it did that?LoyalservantofInti said:It would take more than one attack, Kirby can fight back a universe devouring curtain with his own might.
Hit is most certainly not Universe level+Xenonolon said:Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
Universe level+ is for beings who can destroy/create a Universal Space-Time Continuum, Hit isn't anywhere near thatXenonolon said:Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
He's above base Goku with god ki (who is universal). I don't know what other term you'd use for being far above baseline universe level other than universe level+.WeeklyBattles said:Hit is most certainly not Universe level+Xenonolon said:Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
You would still use Universe level unless he destroyed the entire spacetime continuum or fought someone who did, Hit is nowhere near that level.Xenonolon said:He's above base Goku with god ki (who is universal). I don't know what other term you'd use for being far above baseline universe level other than universe level+.
Base Vegeta with God Ki destroyed the HTC from the inside in the future trunks arc. He'd have to destroy space-time to do that. Hit's pocket dimension that he created is also made up of space-time.Ultima Reality said:Universe level+ is for beings who can destroy/create a Universal Space-Time Continuum, Hit isn't anywhere near thatXenonolon said:Regardless Hit is>=SSB KKx10 Goku who is>SSB Goku who is>SSJ Goku with god ki who is> Base Goku with god ki (and base Goku with god ki is universe level). So he's not just slightly above baseline universe level. He's far above baseline universe level. You could say he's very casually universe level+.
Which neither are anywhere near Universal space-times, especially Hits small pocket dimension.Xenonolon said:Base Vegeta with God Ki destroyed the HTC from the inside in the future trunks arc. He'd have to destroy space-time to do that. Hit's pocket dimension that he created is also made up of space-time.
How am I wanking? Why would Vegeta leave the time chamber and blow it up? it's pretty clear the time chamber was destroyed from the inside as Vegeta powered up during training. Vegeta was sweating profusely, and he was in the area the time chamber would be located.Iron Kirby said:No he wouldn't. The HTC was only physically destroyed. Stop wanking.
The HTC is only planet sized. Destroying it is not a hax feat.Xenonolon said:Base Vegeta with God Ki destroyed the HTC from the inside in the future trunks arc. He'd have to destroy space-time to do that. Hit's pocket dimension that he created is also made up of space-time.
Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?ProfessorKukui4Life said:Which neither are anywhere near Universal space-times, especially Hits small pocket dimension.Xenonolon said:Base Vegeta with God Ki destroyed the HTC from the inside in the future trunks arc. He'd have to destroy space-time to do that. Hit's pocket dimension that he created is also made up of space-time.
Because that is an assumption since Hit has not yet shown to be capable of doing so.Xenonolon said:Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
Because destroying pocket dimension is unquantifiable. However the point is moot since Vegeta didn't destroy any spacetime, the HTC is bounded and only plnetary in sizeXenonolon said:Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
Ki/God Ki at a certain level grants the ability to destroy space-time. Hit should have more Ki/God Ki than Base Vegeta.WeeklyBattles said:Because that is an assumption since Hit has not yet shown to be capable of doing so.Xenonolon said:Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
Because destroying pocket dimension is unquantifiable. However the point is moot since Vegeta didn't destroy any spacetime, the HTC is bounded and only plnetary in sizeJoseph619 said:Xenonolon said:Universal space-times? If you have the range and destructive power to destroy the material universe and the ability to destroy space-time (the space-time component of the universe is separate and you need a hax component to your destructive power to destroy it) why would you not be able to do both at the same time?
Hit's intangible/invisible shockwave should hit Ghost Kirby just fine. And if Kirby tried to possess Hit he could just go into his pocket dimension and let Kirby try over and over to possess his energy clone even though it doesn't have a soul to take over.DerpCity said:Does Hit have a way to counter being possessed by Ghost Kirby? Kirby could just possess Hit and make him beat himself to death. Not sure if Kirby would do that in character, but given the fact he's willing to eat people alive I wouldn't put it past him.
Also still wanna know if Kirby being unable to inhale people much larger than him in most media is considered PIS or not.
That would honestly be so hilarious to see xD.DerpCity said:Does Hit have a way to counter being possessed by Ghost Kirby? Kirby could just possess Hit and make him beat himself to death.
unfortunately this has always been a stomp.LoyalservantofInti said:Unfortunately, recent downgrades make this a stomp.