High 8-C Doubles: Son Goku and Tetsuo Shima vs. Voldemort and Kai Chisaki

[Moritzva]

Since Son Goku is a child, I'd likely assume Tetsuo is the first target. And if Vold goes invisible, Tetsuo is really ******.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Kai morphing the ground to immobilize both his opponents, and having then Voldy kill them at range. If they get close Voldy becomes invisible and Kai disintegrates them via matter manip.

I vote for Kai and Voldy simply because they can probably handle anything that comes to them, as well as Kai being able to heal himself with his hands or being able to heal Voldy no matter what happens to him.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I'm sort of interested to imagine the logistics of Kai fusing with Voldemort. and if they'd do that to get an advantage given they know info about each other (Volde with Kai's physical stats and powers is a scary thing to imagine). If it's necessary to win I know Voldemort would do it, IDK about Kai.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

@Dargoo

I mean, yes. If a 5-b character only has class 1 lifting strength, and you ask them to hold the sky like Annabeth or Percy did, they would be crushed. So if Tetsuo applies more pressure to them than they can lift, they would indeed be crushed. As, in that instance, it wouldn't be much different from crushing with gravity manip. He'd simply be applying a certain amount of force to a specific area.

TK itself is reliant on AP. But restraining and applying direct pressure in a similar manner to gravity manip is indeed reliant on lifting strength.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I mean, yes. If a 5-b character only has class 1 lifting strength, and you ask them to hold the sky like Annabeth or Percy did, they would be crushed. So if Tetsuo applies more pressure to them than they can lift, they would indeed be crushed.

They would be held in place, yes, however they wouldn't be "crushed" or "reduced to a puddle". A High 8-C character has no way of killing a planet buster through telekinetic force even if the later character's lifting strength doesn't allow them to push back against that force. It's no different thatn surviving a punch or a kick; it's just force applied in an indirect way.

 

[TriforcePower1]

I'm sort of interested to imagine the logistics of Kai fusing with Voldemort. and if they'd do that to get an advantage given they know info about each other (Volde with Kai's physical stats and powers is a scary thing to imagine). If it's necessary to win I know Voldemort would do it, IDK about Kai.

Kai fused with his assistant in the fight against Mirio and Deku.

 

[The_Calaca]

I mean, Lifting Strength is what lets a character to crush something. It's like Teon said, the 5-B couldn't hold the skies if his LS is Clase 1 since his bones would get shattered by the amount of weight.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I mean, Lifting Strength is what lets a character to crush something. It's like Teon said, the 5-B couldn't hold the skies if his LS is Clase 1 since his bones would get shattered by the amount of weight.

What?

5-B dura characters can take attacks that can take apart planets. If they don't have enough lifting strength, sure, they couldn't lift the sky, but it makes no sense to suddenly declare the character would get crushed by something hiting them with exponentially less force than they can normally survive.

It's all just force. What, you're telling me Kenshi can kill 5-Bs with less lifting strength? TK doesn't normally negate durability.

Hell, I can't lift 400 pounds, but my body can withstand 400 lbs being placed on it.

 

[Moritzva]

I'm sort of interested to imagine the logistics of Kai fusing with Voldemort. and if they'd do that to get an advantage given they know info about each other (Volde with Kai's physical stats and powers is a scary thing to imagine). If it's necessary to win I know Voldemort would do it, IDK about Kai.

Kaidemort FRA

 

[The_Calaca]

Fair, but I don't mean a hit crushing by LS alone.

For example, if I grab your arm to rip it it wouldn't be AP but LS, right? This kind of things always confuses me.

In this case Tetsuo could press Valdi's head, not hit him with TK.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

For example, if I grab your arm to rip it it wouldn't be AP but LS, right? This kind of things always confuses me.

Ripping someone's arm off is a 9-C AP feat, although it could also qualify for lifting strength.

Volde can block TK attacks with protego, though.

 

[Moritzva]

Honestly, I still doubt Tetsuo would be able to get a kill off first. He's not especially smart, has shaky control over his powers, and will be easy pickings to an invisible Abra Kadabra Alakazam death.

 

[The_Calaca]

Then that's it. I'm not arguing here tho. I think Volsaki takes this.

 

[Wokistan]

Isn't he high 8-V for his crushing feat? That doesn't really mean he can crush a High 8-C the same way he crushes a tank.

 

[Jinsye]

I think the vote is either 3-2 or 4-2

 

[DontTalkDT]

I'm voting for Tetsuo telekinesis crushing Voldi early enough for his team to win this.

 

[TriforcePower1]

But Kai heals GG

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I'm voting for Tetsuo telekinesis crushing Voldi early enough for his team to win this.

Kai would just fuse w/Volde or recontruct Volde afterwards though, and Tetsuo doesn't have the AP to crush Kai; just hold Kai in place.

And again Voldemort can block TK with Protego and proceed to deathax.

 

[DontTalkDT]

He can reconstruct a crushed body in a functioning form?

I suppose in that case I change my vote.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Yeah, Kai can reverse his ability to do that from what I'm aware of, and he would probably then fuse with Voldemort, making a character with Voldemort's ranged hax and Kai's close quarters hax/physical strength and dura.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Kai's ability is matter Manipulation, and he has shown to be able to use that ability as a form of "healing".

 

[DontTalkDT]

Not knowing the character, just to throw that in: Healing Ôëá Healing. Reconstructing a destroyed brain while you don't really know how it was supposed to be like in a healthy state, is much harder than doing the same if you personally deconstructed the brain or generally than reconstructing an arm or something.

So he should have demonstrated something along that lines if we assume that he can heal a dead Waldemar.

 

[TriforcePower1]

You mean something like this?

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Can Kai actually fuse with other people?

 

[TriforcePower1]

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Kaidemort has a lot of synergy as a team, dang.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

I completely forgot about that, lol.

Now idk who to vote for.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Some Telekinesis bypasses shield (Andrew Detmer) and some don't (Mob). In this case though not sure which side Akira falls and doesn't Protego only last briefly? Mages can multi-cast right?

Either way going with Chi cause crushing Kaidemort might be impossible and once they fuse, nothing's stopping him from teleporting in front of Goku and co. There's still the instant death effect too.

Kaidemort FRA.

 

[Jinsye]

5-2 or 6-2

I suppose I can prepare the next round

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Curious btw, is it alright to tag the 8C Matches or so "8C Matches" ? Or are they chronicled somewhere where you can easily check ever match?

 

[Wokistan]

They should all end up being linked off the main bracket thread.

 

[Wokistan]

Also Kaidemort fra

 

[Jinsye]

ok so we actually have 7

huh

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Where would the main bracket thread be?

Edit - Now we wait!

 

[Jinsye]

Next round here