High 7-A Bracket Round 10 (Natsu vs Doom Slayer)

[First_Witch]

Round 10 of the High 7-A Bracket beginns!

The 2 fighters are Natsu and The Doom Slayer

The battle takes place in a sealed off Central Park, both combatants start 30 meters apart.
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Natsu: 7
The Doom Slayer:

 

[00potato]

Doom FRB

 

[Stupits]

Yeah Doom takes this with Time slow and all his other moves. Also how strong is Immortality type 2?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

AP Difference?

 

[Stupits]

can someone convert 2.7433587769*10^18 J to tons?

 

[Stupits]

Natsu is at least 2 Gigatons while Doom slayer is 2.7433587769*10^18 J

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

can someone convert 2.7433587769*10^18 J to tons?

2.7433588e+18 or 655.678 Megatons... You can just easily punch it in a joules to megatons converter

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

Natsu is at least 2 Gigatons

Iirc, Natsu is baseline High 7-A+ which is 2.65 Gigatons

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Pretty hefty AP Edge to start off with.

 

[Stupits]

2.7433588e+18 or 655.678 Megatons... You can just easily punch it in a joules to megatons converter

so 6.5 gigatons

 

[Stupits]

Iirc, Natsu is baseline High 7-A+ which is 2.65 Gigatons

nah natsu scales above a person thats is 2 Gigatons, also i just noticed but if doom slayer is 6.5 Gigatons that would make him 6C

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

so 6.5 gigatons

No. I already did the conversion from joules (2.7433588e+18) to megatons (655.678).

EDIT: In Gigatons, the figure would be 0.66 Gigatons

 

[Zackra1799]

Natsu resists time stop so time slow is useless here.

 

[Stupits]

No. I already did the conversion from joules (2.7433588e+18) to megatons (655.678)

wait so doom slayer is only .65 Gigatons which isnt even High 7A but it does state that he scales above that number so I guess for simplicity we can make him baseline? which is 1Gigaton?

 

[Stupits]

Natsu resists time stop so time slow is useless here.

Can he beat the Immortality type 2 though?

 

[Zackra1799]

Can he beat the Immortality type 2 though?

Yes Natsu has experience fighting a type 2 immortal in Zeref, he just has to burn him enough. And Given Natsu's Heat manip is far above 2 million kelvin it won't be that difficult to do so. Also any of DoomGuy's explosives and electricity attacks are useless and will only power Natsu up.

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

I'm not a DOOM expert (should probably call one), but for the justification for his High 7-A said 'Quadruples Damage", so Doomguy with Onslaught should probably be 4 times as strong as he normally is, so I guess he is 2.623 Gigatons.

Though, given I think this is a powerup, I don't know if it lasts for long according to the weaknesses section of his page.

 

[Stupits]

Wait so I made a mistake there

Doomslayer ap is 2.6 Gigatons
Natsu ap scales above 2 Gigatons

 

[Stupits]

Doom slayer has haste which makes him 2x faster which probably wouldn’t blitz but gives him a considerable advantage

 

[Zackra1799]

Wait so I made a mistake there

Doomslayer ap is 2.6 Gigatons
Natsu ap scales above 2 Gigatons

Natsu's AP comes from one shoting someone who stomped a high 7-A+(2.65 Gigatons)

 

[Stupits]

Natsu's AP comes from one shoting someone who stomped a high 7-A+(2.65 Gigatons)

basically they both have the same ap

 

[Zackra1799]

Doom slayer has haste which makes him 2x faster which probably wouldn’t blitz but gives him a considerable advantage

As soon as Doom uses something fire or electricity based Natsu absorbs and gains that speed increase as well.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I think what he's trying to say is that Natsu One-Shots Doom Slayer since he One-Shot someone who is very close in AP to him.

 

[Zackra1799]

I think what he's trying to say is that Natsu One-Shots Doom Slayer since he One-Shot someone who is very close in AP to him.

No because that's in universe but It does put Natsu at a considerable AP advantage.

 

[Stupits]

I think what he's trying to say is that Natsu One-Shots Doom Slayer since he One-Shot someone who is very close in AP to him.

how will natsu one shot doom slayer if theyre both High 7A? Take note High 7A is 1-4 Gigatons which makes one shotting impossible.

 

[Stupits]

No because that's in universe but It does put Natsu at a considerable AP advantage.

what does in universe mean?

 

[Zackra1799]

what does in universe mean?

Natsu oneshot a character in Fairy Tail, however this doesn't translate to VBW as you need a 7.5x Ap advantage to oneshot here.

 

[Stupits]

Well either way it seems like Natsu is a living counter for Doomguy so Voting Natsu

 

[Stupits]

Natsu oneshot a character in Fairy Tail, however this doesn't translate to VBW as you need a 7.5x Ap advantage to oneshot here.

how did he oneshot the character in the first place without a 7.5x ap advantage

 

[Keeweed]

Natsu one shots. If a character scales to one shooting what the other characters scale to then that character one shots in the versus thread. Plus Natsu one shot 2 gigatons while Doomguy is only 2 with a power up that doesn’t increase his durability.

 

[Stupits]

Natsu one shots. If a character scales to one shooting what the other characters scale to then that character one shots in the versus thread. Plus Natsu one shot 2 gigatons while Doomguy is only 2 with a power up that doesn’t increase his durability.

No natsu doesn’t one shot but he still takes this so it doesn’t really matter

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Natsu one shots. If a character scales to one shooting what the other characters scale to then that character one shots in the versus thread. Plus Natsu one shot 2 gigatons while Doomguy is only 2 with a power up that doesn’t increase his durability.

Yeah, that.

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

Doomguy is only 2 with a power up that doesn’t increase his durability.

According to Doomguy's Profile, Onslaught does increase his Durability to High 7-A

 

[Zackra1799]

Natsu one shots. If a character scales to one shooting what the other characters scale to then that character one shots in the versus thread. Plus Natsu one shot 2 gigatons while Doomguy is only 2 with a power up that doesn’t increase his durability.

This only applies if the fight takes place in the FT universe, however in a neutral setting, like this fight, you need a 7.5x AP advantage to one shot as per the VBW rule set

 

[Stupits]

It literally states on Doomguy’s profile that he took hits from a High 7A character

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

This only applies if the fight takes place in the FT universe, however in a neutral setting, like this fight, you need a 7.5x AP advantage to one shot as per the VBW rule set

I'm like 90% sure I've seen a bunch of threads where the opposite is treated as fact.

 

[Stupits]

This only applies if the fight takes place in the FT universe, however in a neutral setting, like this fight, you need a 7.5x AP advantage to one shot as per the VBW rule set

why didn’t they make natsu 6C instead of High 7A then

 

[Zackra1799]

why didn’t they make natsu 6C instead of High 7A then

Because in order to upgrade someone based on a scaling chain the difference needs to be less than 1.5x to the Baseline of that tier. however the difference here is 2x so Natsu is just massively higher than Baseline High 7-A+.

 

[Keeweed]

Because we don’t scale profiles like that. You can only jump if you are very close to the end of a tier, but you can still tank or one shot things you scale to if you scale to tanking and one shooting them.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

It literally states on Doomguy’s profile that he took hits from a High 7A character

At least Mountain level+, possibly higher (Stated to be stronger than before. Took attacks from the Icon of Sin), higher with Blood Punch and Berserk. At least Large Mountain level with Onslaught

His Durability is only High 7-A via Onslaught he never took hits from a High 7-A