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High 6A Ji VS High 6A Lucifero

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Just both of them in H6A forms.
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Ji Ning (Three Realms)

Ji Ning, a teenager who, while being bedridden due to constant illness and predicted to die young, decided that he'd spend his life building an online fortune and use it to help those less fortunate than himself. Upon his death, he arrives at the Netherworld and learns that Earth was but one...
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Lucifero

Lucifero 「ルチフェロ Ruchifero」 is a highest-ranking devil and one of the three rulers of the underworld, residing on the lowest level. The devil has contracted with Dante Zogratis, a member of the Spade Kingdom's Dark Triad, as well as with Morris Libardirt. He is the final and most powerful devil...
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Ji Ning has the skill advantage to an obscene degree, likely oneshots due to being barely a hair's breadth away from Moon level (along with being that level with his strongest attacks), can spatially lock him in place via controlling that part of the world with a concept and prevent even thought-based powers from activating, has dust level deconstruction with each sword light blast, can regenerate from little more than a blood drop, can replicate himself to name a few of his abilities.
 
ZawierJ said:
Lucifero has the LS advantage and he passively floors him with the gravity.
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The fact that it's never been treated as passive aside, then what? Ning still thinks and locks Lucifero and his powers up before reducing him to dust.
 
Planck69 said:
Ji Ning has the skill advantage to an obscene degree, likely oneshots due to being barely a hair's breadth away from Moon level (along with being that level with his strongest attacks), can spatially lock him in place via controlling that part of the world with a concept and prevent even thought-based powers from activating, has dust level deconstruction with each sword light blast, can regenerate from little more than a blood drop, can replicate himself to name a few of his abilities.
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Lucifero does have the resistance to not be affected by Ji Ning's Dao Domain glancing at the profiles. He resists spatial manipulation and mind manipulation (which Fear would classify under here). So he's probably subject to Lucifero's gravity control to start the fight off with since that's his go to move.
 
Duedate8898 said:
Lucifero does have the resistance to not be affected by Ji Ning's Dao Domain glancing at the profiles. He resists spatial manipulation and mind manipulation (which Fear would classify under here). So he's probably subject to Lucifero's gravity control to start the fight off with since that's his go to move.
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It's via using a universal concept that controls the world and its space to do so, so I'm not quite sure how well that'd go for Lucifero.

Plus, Ning's physically far enough above him that at worst he'd be immobilized and forced to rely on his thought-based powers. Which can;
  • Deconstruct him to dust.
  • Destroy his soul.
  • Instantly freeze him in ice, set him on fire or attack with any manner of elements.
  • Beat him up with light constructs etc.
 
Duedate8898 said:
Oh, so are all his powers reliant on concept manipulation or just this one?
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The elemental powers and sword based ones are facilitated by his mastery over the Daos of the Sword as well as Fire, Water, Wind, Earth, Metal and Wood, Type 2 concepts. He can also control these concepts.

It's not "muh destroyed on a conceptual level" but rather him using concept manip to achieve those powers and control the world.
 
Even if he can concept lock Lucifero, why should we assume the effects would occur before the effects of Gravity crush?
 
Doesn't seem like it'll fully kill Ning, at all. As long as he could still think, Ning can do his shenanigans.
 
Do we know how exactly he died? Did his heart or brain get crushed or smth?

Asta, who, from my knowledge, doesn't have the same level of regen as Ning. As long as it doesn't turn him to dust or anything like that, Ning will likely just be alive the entire time, especially since Ning can survive just as a soul lmao.

Hell, even if he died, his Primaltwin still exists.

Also, since it's apparently passive, has it shown to affect dudes 4KM away? His profile says several kilometers, but is that the case for the gravity crush as well?
 
Rikimarox2 said:
Also, since it's apparently passive, has it shown to affect dudes 4KM away? His profile says several kilometers, but is that the case for the gravity crush as well?
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Yeah

Anyways, I'll unwatch the thread. It's a stomp, and a boring one at that
 
ZawierJ said:
Lucifero gravity magic is passive and it will crush ji
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I feel like you keep repeating this without reading any of the points above. How will this matter? Ji Ning utterly dwarfs in durability, has far higher regeneration than anything the gravity could handle and can destroy his soul or just plain negate his powers by thinking.
 
It does sound like this ends up being a stomp for Ji if he just insta-locks Lucifero down and Lucifero can do nothing past that point. Inversely, Ji can still fight with Lucifero even if he gets locked down on the ground.
 
Planck69 said:
I feel like you keep repeating this without reading any of the points above. How will this matter? Ji Ning utterly dwarfs in durability, has far higher regeneration than anything the gravity could handle and can destroy his soul or just plain negate his powers by thinking.
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Lucifero gravity magic is passive and it will crush ji


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Duedate8898 said:
It does sound like this ends up being a stomp for Ji if he just insta-locks Lucifero down and Lucifero can do nothing past that point. Inversely, Ji can still fight with Lucifero even if he gets locked down on the ground.
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can you close this thread?
 
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