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High 3-A downgrade Anos
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Anos actually implied this. This is the whole scan meaning, they can nuke everything.
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Anos raised above Tier 0, asked to leave VSBW
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It is quite the same statement as in Nasu-verse, and yet no one really gave a concrete answer why it should not be higher despite having no contradiction.
But here is different, the argument is there are no AP feats to even verify the current rating (I am not denying that volume 5 and upper already demonstrated)
but as for now, the rating should be removed and replaced with unknown.
But here is different, the argument is there are no AP feats to even verify the current rating (I am not denying that volume 5 and upper already demonstrated)
but as for now, the rating should be removed and replaced with unknown.
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What's your suggestion for the replacement of High 3-A ?Introduction
My premise is to remove high 3-A as it is absolutely not supported by any feats and it is definition of NLF statement.
Anos Voldigoad
Anos Voldigoad (アノス・ヴォルディゴード, Anosu Vorudigōdo) is the reincarnation of the man who was feared as the Demon King of Tyranny 2,000 years ago and is the main protagonist of Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha. As the war between humans and demons raged on, Anos eventually grew tired of the constant...vsbattles.fandom.com
High 3-A:
There is absolutely no feat that supports this, and we no longer take NLF statements into account. Because you can simply argue for tier 0 for this statement.
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I feel like if it has been shown to do this, or can be proven in some way, shape, or form, then it should stay. but if it has been shown to be countered by anything in its description, or its effects is based solely on hax, then it should probably be removed.
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Unknown rating till volume 6 or volume 8 are dropped where they demonstrated large AP feats.
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No, the argument still stands because these statements alone can be used for AP if there's no anti-feats.
And since you've yet to prove your claim that "Anos' statement shouldn't be taken seriously" you have no reason to deny this argument.
Dread you are not bringing any evidence to the table, or addressing anyone's arguments. I ask that you wait for staff to come to this thread if you aren't going to respond with anything of value.
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Thanks for your opinion, this is what I am trying to say.
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Idk who Phoenx is tbh.
That is implied, but it still isn’t a NLF. It would be a NLF if you were to suggest Anos can beat anyone in fiction with it. NLF isn’t a thing that pops up in writing, fallacies in debating are made by us, and we fall into the NLF based on our interpretation of the writing. The writing itself makes it clear that Venezuela can destroy things that are infinite and it’s as simple as that.
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The statement alone was not even referring to AP kind at all.
It should not be taken literal, I never claimed it should not be taken seriously.
You never brought any evidence to the table that the sword could do anything either?
Which comments you have dropped and I did not respond to?
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This is my point, all AP feats that have been shown are way later in the story, volume 6 to volume 11.
This profile is only till volume 4.
Why no one is understanding this?
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Why are you deciding that Anos’s knowledge on his crutch is faulty? I’ve shown you that it isn’t a NLF, so what’s left for you to disagree with?
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it's also possible that it isn't NLF, and really can do those things, but just through hax. but what do I know?
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Better nuke the verse
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Because it is neither
- narrative words
- omniscience
- no AP feats has been far shown to that level in 4 volumes
- If the source of the statement is reliable?
- If the statement conflicts with the story or feats of the character?
- If the statement is only valid in the context of its setting, or if it holds up in comparison with other settings?
In matter of fact, it was only Hax feats.
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Dread, you said that you're done powerscaling MG, yet you made this, all i can say is that this is not healthy at all (i know you have this issue way back then but still)
This is also combined with the current outburst that happened in RvR, it's a worst timing
I agree on what Phoenks and Nex said, take a break from this sites is necessary at this point
Regardless, i inclined to disagree based on what Phoenks had pointed, but i think what Nanaya brought has a point and need to be looked/argued, would you mind to? @Phoenks
This is also combined with the current outburst that happened in RvR, it's a worst timing
I agree on what Phoenks and Nex said, take a break from this sites is necessary at this point
Regardless, i inclined to disagree based on what Phoenks had pointed, but i think what Nanaya brought has a point and need to be looked/argued, would you mind to? @Phoenks
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Godsatoshi23
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In destruction Anos did said he is truly the best and that can't be overlooked.
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Let me explain why this is wrong.
1. Anos knows his sword extremely well. He falls into option 2 of the page..
2. Conflict = contradict. As you might recall, Venezuela has no anti-feats, and isn’t an outlier to Anos being fodder as it’s a separate weapon.
3. It has been shown to be valid in its setting kek, it’s destroyed all foes it met.
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I mean if the best feat at that time is obly destroying mountain by exemple, how this feat could mean hugh3-A? An infinite sized glass is not high3-A in tier. (Isn't this whole logic used for the dimmension thing in first ? Infinite feat without context mean nothing)
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No need. it's pretty clear that the statement is not NLF and it can be used.
I agree with Planck and phoenks here.
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Where? Mind showing me the statement that is found in LN version till volume 4?
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So baseless claim? Gotchu
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It's in volume 2
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Exactly ^^
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Show me
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Pls respond I tried
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He has absolutely no anti-feats in terms of hax, this became tiring how many times should I address this?
Why would hax feats even relate to AP feats? They are not related and can't be used to scale each other.
Look at the second point
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It does not support anything regarding high 3-A rating.
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The ****.
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Has he literally never used Venezuela to stab anyone? I don’t get what you’re getting at.
Godsatoshi23
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This can show Anos know how much destruction he has and that's why he said venzudonor to be infinite.
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“but still not completely believable. He is stated to be invincible. In truth, he is only invincible in comparison to whatever this wizard could dish out. A low fantasy "indestructible" is our city-block level.”
Yes ImmortalDread, in our tiering system, being able to destroy anything is not immediately Tier 0, this is a fact.
Yes ImmortalDread, in our tiering system, being able to destroy anything is not immediately Tier 0, this is a fact.
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Stabbing anyone? Why is this even relevant.
My point is, you are countering my OP by saying there were no anti-feats with his sword while his sword only demonstrated hax feats?
Where is logic here? I am not saying there is absolutely no AP feats, but this is for later volumes.
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It's an exemple that the feat of "how infinite it is" doesn't mean high 3-A. An infinite sized glass with 1mm of tickness is not high 3-A yet it still infinite in size.
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Neither high 3-A, you are proving my point.
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