Here's the Sugar on the cream, Vox asked me to scale to his team.

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

We have an accepted calc of Vox creating a blackout in episode 2 of Hazbin Hotel at 146.88 Kilotons

We also have another accepted calc of Vox's of him making a power outage, making this consistent for vox.

So who'd scale:

Vox would at least scale in durability via it being shown in the scene that it's coursing through his body, likely a/p too.

Alastor would scale to vox being one of the strongest overlords and nearly beating him.

Charlie could get a possibly via being one of the more powerful beings in hell

The gay femboy owl who doesn't know how to keep a stable relationship is also on the list but I've been advised that he should get a full profile rework.

Mammon and Asmodeus should also scale too.

Agree:

Disagree:

 

[DaReaperMan]

As discussed on the discussion thread!
Vox's Durability obviously scales, the energy went through him before causing the Blackout.

Alastor and Vox have either a solid or likely scaling in their stats, as they are heavily implied to have had a 1v1 conflict, I don't really care which, but whatever Alastor gets here so does Vox.

The Seven Deadly all upscale for extremely obvious reasons

I'm iffy on Charlie scaling, but I suppose a possibly rating is fine.

Overall, yeah. I agree.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I share same thoughts as DaReaperMan, although I'll change 1v1 fight thingy soon but since it's currently accepted I'm OK with it

Btw the CGM in comments said that it is up to the conclusion in CRT to decide whether it is Large Town level or City level. Any thoughts on that?

 

[ShionAH]

I think Charlie should scale, Alastor straight up says she is "full of power" which would be weird if he was much more powerful than her

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I think Charlie should scale, Alastor straight up says she is "full of power" which would be weird if he was much more powerful than her

Actually he says “She’s filled with potential that I could guide”

 

[ShionAH]

She’s filled with potential that I could guide

My bad, point still kinda stand

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

I think Charlie should scale, Alastor straight up says she is "full of power" which would be weird if he was much more powerful than her

full of potential, which is vague. could just mean that he could use her social status

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

full of potential, which is vague. could just mean that he could use her social status

I don’t think it means social status, more like that she could become far stronger, hence the big potential

Anyways I still agree that Charlie can scale at possibly

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

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Should they all scale to mid end (Large Town level) or high end (City level)? CGM said it should be decided by knowledgeable members in the CRT, and guess who y’all are.

 

[ShionAH]

I'd say Mid End for Base and High End for full Demon Form maybe?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I'd say Mid End for Base and High End for full Demon Form maybe?

It doesn’t work that way. We either accept mid end assumption which uses Chicago population, or high end assumption which uses Charlie’s statement of “billion needed faces”

 

[ShionAH]

It doesn’t work that way

True my brain melted for a second, Idk I feel like High End makes more sense since its very much implied Hell is really really overcrowded

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I personally think that high-end is better given that it uses in-show statement, and y’know logically one ring should contain billion sinners that came to Hell throughout the entire humanity's history and also central point of the series is that Hell is overpopulated asf which is why they need Extermination/Redemption to reduce the danger of rebellion and stuff.

 

[ShionAH]

throughout the entire humanity's history

My problem with this is, Adam's army is... how many people? It looks like maybe 200 or less but somehow these guys wiped out %17?? Like thats so many sinners for such a small amount of angels.

Do we just assume Adam drops tactical light nukes on cities or something? Do we assume Adam didnt bring his whole army because he was able to handle the hotel cast by himself?

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

We need staff,

It doesn’t work that way. We either accept mid end assumption which uses Chicago population, or high end assumption which uses Charlie’s statement of “billion needed faces”

the pride ring HAS to be massive considering how many people die a year. Assuming the population is a billion then high end works

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

My problem with this is, Adam's army is... how many people? It looks like maybe 200 or less but somehow these guys wiped out %17?? Like thats so many sinners for such a small amount of angels.

Do we just assume Adam drops tactical light nukes on cities or something? Do we assume Adam didnt bring his whole army because he was able to handle the hotel cast by himself?

I mean they have a whole day of just flying around and one-shotting random people on streets?

 

[ShionAH]

I mean they have a whole day of just flying around and one-shotting random people on streets?

17% of 1 billion is 170,000,000. Either Adam is fricking dropping nukes or the army was scattered around Hell in Finale

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

17% of 1 billion is 170,000,000. Either Adam is fricking dropping nukes or the army was scattered around Hell in Finale

I mean, in the last episode they managed to kill a lot of people in some minutes of battle which they were actually losing (besides Adam). Also, Carmille says that all Overlord own millions of souls, meaning that billion still works and Exorcists killed a huge amount of Sinners either way, so it’s not really a contradiction.

 

[ShionAH]

they managed to kill a lot of people

Yeah but 170 Million or whatever Sinners? They have to be down there for like weeks to do that shit with only 200 people!

I think we should either assume Adam was nuking stuff, since its canon he does the dirty work with his army. Or we just assume Adam sent some of his troops across Hell since he was confident rightfully so, he beat the shit out of hotel cast

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Yeah but 170 Million or whatever Sinners? They have to be down there for like weeks to do that shit with only 200 people!

I think we should either assume Adam was nuking stuff, since its canon he does the dirty work with his army. Or we just assume Adam sent some of his troops across Hell since he was confident rightfully so, he beat the shit out of hotel cast

Ig this makes sense. Also don’t forget that Adam could potentially destroy entire buildings by his Holy Light, causing more destruction and death. Supporting that, we also many buildings destroyed in a Pilot where Cherry Bomb and Angel Dust fight iirc.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Wait is pentagram city and the pride ring the same or does the pride ring contain pentagram city? Cause that affects the low or high end result

 

[ShionAH]

pride ring contain pentagram city

Yes