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Funny plot says hi, their NPE neither their transduality cover plotCan John kill Junko and the Dragon god though? They have weird traits that make them untouchable by normal means, pretty sure
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Funny plot says hi, their NPE neither their transduality cover plotCan John kill Junko and the Dragon god though? They have weird traits that make them untouchable by normal means, pretty sure
They can bypass nonduality type 2??Funny plot says hi, their NPE neither their transduality cover plot
John can bypass ND type 2 lmao.They can bypass nonduality type 2??
Nonduality which has no evidence of ever interacting with plot, much less trascending it in any matter, does a metanarrative even exist in 2hu?They can bypass nonduality type 2??
NoNonduality which has no evidence of ever interacting with plot, much less trascending it in any matter, does a metanarrative even exist in 2hu?
I don't think Touhou has a metanarrative
That is what I said, touho transduality won't work if they have no feats of trascending/lacking meta narrativeI don't think Touhou has a metanarrative
We can get Non Duality from other since John can basically touch ND being.Then Touhou gets solod... Why don't you take their nonduality? That seems pretty broken, it'd make you basically immune to everything
Radiant Historia so that we can get White Chronicle to gain 5D HDE and acausality type 2 from Stocke. Due to the way it work, now we have 2 main body, the one in Farum Azula and the one in Historia.
Would update John by this, but I would only give John NEP from Ishmael since herrscher is literally an entire physiology.
Updated.Would update John by this, but I would only give John NEP from Ishmael since herrscher is literally an entire physiology.
I nominate The Monument Mythos again.
It peaks at 4D and Low 2-C, but it can give John the Horned Serpent's Immeasurable LS, as well as Richard Nixon's Plot Manip / Subjective Reality, which allows him to make things (including a whole universe) fictional, as well as his resistance to Fate Manipulation
I would want to add all of these. But John already got NEP type 2 from Ishmael. Any other ability from Touhou?I nominate touho as a sacrificial lamb for john powers, he should get layered NPE2 from junko, someone else nominate the resitances and equipment,
You forget White Chronicle, my man isn't getting HDE if he can't get to Historia which require white chronicle.
AddedYou forget White Chronicle, my man isn't getting HDE if he can't get to Historia which require white chronicle.
Nice, what about Touhou PnA since John already got NEP type 2?John boy solos willvers, due to their inhability to do jackshit against getting erased from the plot at immensurable speed. Giving him
With the resistance being
- Conceptual Invulnerability (Type 1 - The Authority of the Titan is at it's core the embodiment of the Ways inherent nature as a fundamental force of protection from concepts such as chaos and destruction[101] which provides Ozriel with defenses directly imbued into his being[118] that stops any attacks at a conceptual level and renders him invulnerable to any amount of force[119])
He gets azriel scythe:
- Unconventional Resistance to Power Absorption, Power Modification, Power Nullification, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) and Information Manipulation (Type 2): An origin of existence is the essence that defines a person[55] which exists as a record separate from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[32] such that abilities tied to an origin of existence like a Sages connection to an Icon require a mean of interacting with it to be removed,[32] altered[56] or destroyed[57] because their connection to their Icon serves as a new external foundation to their power[58]
All previous abilities plus:
- Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with Origins,[50] souls,[137] abstracts[138] and threads of fate[58])
- Purification (Types 1, 2 & 3 - Possesses the abilities of Suriel's Razor[58] which is the ultimate tool for cutting away corruption[139] that violently separates the diseased from the healthy[140] making it capable of removing toxic energy and hostile Will[134] which can induce status effects like paralysis[141] and removing viruses from a target[142])
- Nonexistent Erasure (Nature Type 2, Aspect Types 1, 2 & 5 - Suriel's Razor can erase attacks of the Void[139] which is a pure lack of existence[75] lacking causality,[113] physics, laws,[143] fate[102] and even concepts[52] including existence[144] and nonexistence[52])
- Law Manipulation (Suriel's Razor can cut at the fact of a things existence effectively erasing it from existence[140])
- Invulnerability Nullification (Ozriel's Scythe possesses the same destructive authority as the Bane of the Titan which can kill Gadrael[58] despite his conceptual invulnerability[118])
- Curse Manipulation (Ozriel's Scythe carries the power of Sha'irik the absolute curse[58])
- Death Manipulation (Ozriel's Scythe is made using Penance which has death inducing properties[46] and it will kill anyone who hasn't been granted permission to wield it by Ozriel[90])
- Resistance Negation (Possesses the same properties as Penance which kills without resistance[48])
- Power Nullification (Releases a colorless light which swallows up attacks and reduces them to nothing[129])
- Fate Manipulation (Possesses the authority the Shears of Makiels which can snip threads from Fate[58] and is vastly superior to Penance Prototypes which can move through fate and space to forcibly instill a targets death through the future[49])
- Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1 - Uses the destructive authority of Auctarius, the blade that sundered Heaven[58] in which "The Heavens" is another name for the Way,[46] the fundamental order[102] which is the source of existence, causality,[113] physics, laws,[143] fate[102] as well as archetypal greater concepts of reality[145] and the Reaper's Scythe can ignore the concept of size when attacking[140])
- Immortality Negation (Types 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 & 9 - The Reaper's Scythe is comparable to Abidan who can strip other ascended beings of their immortality,[146] induce damage that cannot be regenerated by Suriel nor those killed by it resurrected by her,[147] it utilizes Authority[58] which carries over its effects to the other instances of a target[148] even those projected into other bodies,[149] it can kill Monarchs while preventing their undead immortality[47] that allows them to live on[54] as remnants after death,[55] is able to kill Dreadgods who can resurrect themselves given time[56] as long as hunger madra exists[57] even while the Slumbering Wraith anchors their immortality that requires the destruction of their Origin of existence[50] which is the very essence that defines them[51] that exists separately from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[52])
- Regeneration Negation (High-Godly - Suriel considers it impossible to reverse damage done by the Reapers Scythe[147] despite her ability to regenerate[133] and restore things that[150] have been erased from causality such that they never existed in the first place[151] and dissolving into the Void[152] which erases things at the conceptual level[66])
Boundary manip, or Reimu bullshit adaption sound funNice, what about Touhou PnA since John already got NEP type 2?
So, John technically have a Dantian where he can store Tao now?Unconventional Resistance to Power Absorption, Power Modification, Power Nullification, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) and Information Manipulation (Type 2): An origin of existence is the essence that defines a person[55] which exists as a record separate from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[32] such that abilities tied to an origin of existence like a Sages connection to an Icon require a mean of interacting with it to be removed,[32] altered[56] or destroyed[57] because their connection to their Icon serves as a new external foundation to their power[58]
Fatal Twelve just get the thing about human perception and Court of Fate as equipment.John solo Fatal Twelve and get uhhh, Parca have so many goddamn good abilities.
John solo DaL for fun, he get the law manip and Sandalphon.Fatal Twelve
Fatal Twelve is a Ren'Py-based Visual Novel released by aiueoKompany in late March 2018. Rinka Shishimai was a highschooler who ran a small café named Lion House in place of her grandmother. She lived her life much like any other person her age, but one day, she was caught up in an explosion...vsbattles.fandom.com
Date A Live
For detailed information about this series, visit the Date A Live Wiki. Date A Live (デート・ア・ライブ Dēto A Raibu) is an ongoing Japanese light novel series written by Kōshi Tachibana and illustrated by Tsunako that is published by Fujimi Shobo under their Fujumi Fantasia Bunko label since March 2011...vsbattles.fandom.com
Will be hard for John to defeat Ozriel lmao, his hax is too much for John.John boy solos willvers, due to their inhability to do jackshit against getting erased from the plot at immensurable speed. Giving him
With the resistance being
- Conceptual Invulnerability (Type 1 - The Authority of the Titan is at it's core the embodiment of the Ways inherent nature as a fundamental force of protection from concepts such as chaos and destruction[101] which provides Ozriel with defenses directly imbued into his being[118] that stops any attacks at a conceptual level and renders him invulnerable to any amount of force[119])
He gets azriel scythe:
- Unconventional Resistance to Power Absorption, Power Modification, Power Nullification, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) and Information Manipulation (Type 2): An origin of existence is the essence that defines a person[55] which exists as a record separate from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[32] such that abilities tied to an origin of existence like a Sages connection to an Icon require a mean of interacting with it to be removed,[32] altered[56] or destroyed[57] because their connection to their Icon serves as a new external foundation to their power[58]
And this is technically john first victory against a xianxia verse (which is more xuanhuan, because there is wheel of times but pirates but eh...)All previous abilities plus:
- Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with Origins,[50] souls,[137] abstracts[138] and threads of fate[58])
- Purification (Types 1, 2 & 3 - Possesses the abilities of Suriel's Razor[58] which is the ultimate tool for cutting away corruption[139] that violently separates the diseased from the healthy[140] making it capable of removing toxic energy and hostile Will[134] which can induce status effects like paralysis[141] and removing viruses from a target[142])
- Nonexistent Erasure (Nature Type 2, Aspect Types 1, 2 & 5 - Suriel's Razor can erase attacks of the Void[139] which is a pure lack of existence[75] lacking causality,[113] physics, laws,[143] fate[102] and even concepts[52] including existence[144] and nonexistence[52])
- Law Manipulation (Suriel's Razor can cut at the fact of a things existence effectively erasing it from existence[140])
- Invulnerability Nullification (Ozriel's Scythe possesses the same destructive authority as the Bane of the Titan which can kill Gadrael[58] despite his conceptual invulnerability[118])
- Curse Manipulation (Ozriel's Scythe carries the power of Sha'irik the absolute curse[58])
- Death Manipulation (Ozriel's Scythe is made using Penance which has death inducing properties[46] and it will kill anyone who hasn't been granted permission to wield it by Ozriel[90])
- Resistance Negation (Possesses the same properties as Penance which kills without resistance[48])
- Power Nullification (Releases a colorless light which swallows up attacks and reduces them to nothing[129])
- Fate Manipulation (Possesses the authority the Shears of Makiels which can snip threads from Fate[58] and is vastly superior to Penance Prototypes which can move through fate and space to forcibly instill a targets death through the future[49])
- Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1 - Uses the destructive authority of Auctarius, the blade that sundered Heaven[58] in which "The Heavens" is another name for the Way,[46] the fundamental order[102] which is the source of existence, causality,[113] physics, laws,[143] fate[102] as well as archetypal greater concepts of reality[145] and the Reaper's Scythe can ignore the concept of size when attacking[140])
- Immortality Negation (Types 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 & 9 - The Reaper's Scythe is comparable to Abidan who can strip other ascended beings of their immortality,[146] induce damage that cannot be regenerated by Suriel nor those killed by it resurrected by her,[147] it utilizes Authority[58] which carries over its effects to the other instances of a target[148] even those projected into other bodies,[149] it can kill Monarchs while preventing their undead immortality[47] that allows them to live on[54] as remnants after death,[55] is able to kill Dreadgods who can resurrect themselves given time[56] as long as hunger madra exists[57] even while the Slumbering Wraith anchors their immortality that requires the destruction of their Origin of existence[50] which is the very essence that defines them[51] that exists separately from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[52])
- Regeneration Negation (High-Godly - Suriel considers it impossible to reverse damage done by the Reapers Scythe[147] despite her ability to regenerate[133] and restore things that[150] have been erased from causality such that they never existed in the first place[151] and dissolving into the Void[152] which erases things at the conceptual level[66])
Get Croire Portal creation and dimensional travel and resistance to existence erasure and spacce-time manip from Deity of Sin.Anyway, Hyperdimension Neptunia, it literally doesn't have immeasurable speed and some of the more powerful hax that John have isn't resisted. Immortality isn't a problem with various immortality negation tool that John have.
Edit: get ap, range and dura obviously, will think about abilites later.
If it's offensive then he should be able to just dodge out of range with Immeasurable speed and bail to higher dimension, if it's defensive then suck to be John i guess.Will be hard for John to defeat Ozriel lmao, his hax is too much for John.
Well the fact that Xianxia (and some outlier) being loaded as hell with hax kinda make it seem like he doesn't have such abilites, but most of the verse that doesn't have loaded hax just get snipe by John.It's wild we've gone 16 pages of verse soloing and we're still not even near the top or even beating folks in our tier
Ozzie doesn't resist plot manip, and he is uh....Just a little bit slower than himWill be hard for John to defeat Ozriel lmao, his hax is too much for John.
The new tier list blocked John HARD, so unless there is some verse with outversal and beyond hax, that doesn't have outversal beings, and those haxes won't instantly kill john, then he is kinda screwed if he wants to go beyond 6-D, much less metafictional shenanigansIt's wild we've gone 16 pages of verse soloing and we're still not even near the top or even beating folks in our tier
I don't feel like thinking of an entire strategy, but as a start, I recommend aiming for John using passive hax to defeat a fiction that has beyond 6D immeasurable speed and has no other significant obstruction, so he can steal the super speed and have even the slightest opportunity to cook beyond 6D.The new tier list blocked John HARD, so unless there is some verse with outversal and beyond hax, that doesn't have outversal beings, and those haxes won't instantly kill john, then he is kinda screwed if he wants to go beyond 6-D, much less metafictional shenanigans
High-1C is probably the biggest hurdle so far, Doctor Who have high-1B, Index have Crowley who have clone in a place high-1C distance away, Digimon i don't know, 07th expansion is a no, arrowverse God have omnipresence on a high-1C scale so not hitting them, Gurren lagann have the high-dimensional existence blockage even if they only have infinite speed and nothing for resistance.I don't feel like thinking of an entire strategy, but as a start, I recommend aiming for John using passive hax to defeat a fiction that has beyond 6D immeasurable speed and has no other significant obstruction, so he can steal the super speed and have even the slightest opportunity to cook beyond 6D.
Index have horrible speed lol.High-1C is probably the biggest hurdle so far, Doctor Who have high-1B, Index have Crowley who have clone in a place high-1C distance away, Digimon i don't know, 07th expansion is a no, arrowverse God have omnipresence on a high-1C scale so not hitting them, Gurren lagann have the high-dimensional existence blockage even if they only have infinite speed and nothing for resistance.
Read everything first mate.Index have horrible speed lol.
MBRead everything first mate.
Going to do this later.John boy solos willvers, due to their inhability to do jackshit against getting erased from the plot at immensurable speed. Giving him
With the resistance being
- Conceptual Invulnerability (Type 1 - The Authority of the Titan is at it's core the embodiment of the Ways inherent nature as a fundamental force of protection from concepts such as chaos and destruction[101] which provides Ozriel with defenses directly imbued into his being[118] that stops any attacks at a conceptual level and renders him invulnerable to any amount of force[119])
He gets azriel scythe:
- Unconventional Resistance to Power Absorption, Power Modification, Power Nullification, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) and Information Manipulation (Type 2): An origin of existence is the essence that defines a person[55] which exists as a record separate from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[32] such that abilities tied to an origin of existence like a Sages connection to an Icon require a mean of interacting with it to be removed,[32] altered[56] or destroyed[57] because their connection to their Icon serves as a new external foundation to their power[58]
And this is technically john first victory against a xianxia verse (which is more xuanhuan, because there is wheel of times but pirates but eh...)All previous abilities plus:
- Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with Origins,[50] souls,[137] abstracts[138] and threads of fate[58])
- Purification (Types 1, 2 & 3 - Possesses the abilities of Suriel's Razor[58] which is the ultimate tool for cutting away corruption[139] that violently separates the diseased from the healthy[140] making it capable of removing toxic energy and hostile Will[134] which can induce status effects like paralysis[141] and removing viruses from a target[142])
- Nonexistent Erasure (Nature Type 2, Aspect Types 1, 2 & 5 - Suriel's Razor can erase attacks of the Void[139] which is a pure lack of existence[75] lacking causality,[113] physics, laws,[143] fate[102] and even concepts[52] including existence[144] and nonexistence[52])
- Law Manipulation (Suriel's Razor can cut at the fact of a things existence effectively erasing it from existence[140])
- Invulnerability Nullification (Ozriel's Scythe possesses the same destructive authority as the Bane of the Titan which can kill Gadrael[58] despite his conceptual invulnerability[118])
- Curse Manipulation (Ozriel's Scythe carries the power of Sha'irik the absolute curse[58])
- Death Manipulation (Ozriel's Scythe is made using Penance which has death inducing properties[46] and it will kill anyone who hasn't been granted permission to wield it by Ozriel[90])
- Resistance Negation (Possesses the same properties as Penance which kills without resistance[48])
- Power Nullification (Releases a colorless light which swallows up attacks and reduces them to nothing[129])
- Fate Manipulation (Possesses the authority the Shears of Makiels which can snip threads from Fate[58] and is vastly superior to Penance Prototypes which can move through fate and space to forcibly instill a targets death through the future[49])
- Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1 - Uses the destructive authority of Auctarius, the blade that sundered Heaven[58] in which "The Heavens" is another name for the Way,[46] the fundamental order[102] which is the source of existence, causality,[113] physics, laws,[143] fate[102] as well as archetypal greater concepts of reality[145] and the Reaper's Scythe can ignore the concept of size when attacking[140])
- Immortality Negation (Types 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 & 9 - The Reaper's Scythe is comparable to Abidan who can strip other ascended beings of their immortality,[146] induce damage that cannot be regenerated by Suriel nor those killed by it resurrected by her,[147] it utilizes Authority[58] which carries over its effects to the other instances of a target[148] even those projected into other bodies,[149] it can kill Monarchs while preventing their undead immortality[47] that allows them to live on[54] as remnants after death,[55] is able to kill Dreadgods who can resurrect themselves given time[56] as long as hunger madra exists[57] even while the Slumbering Wraith anchors their immortality that requires the destruction of their Origin of existence[50] which is the very essence that defines them[51] that exists separately from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[52])
- Regeneration Negation (High-Godly - Suriel considers it impossible to reverse damage done by the Reapers Scythe[147] despite her ability to regenerate[133] and restore things that[150] have been erased from causality such that they never existed in the first place[151] and dissolving into the Void[152] which erases things at the conceptual level[66])