• If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate.

    Please click here if you are willing to help out.
Nobody plans to recalculate Alastor's finger snap? I just would like to make it myself. In a new way. No evaporation.
 
1,366
181
Just wondering. Why exactly are they? I mean, I don't see the relationship, especially given that they have different bullet speeds
Sorry I ment Low-High-Low, and because for Low-High-Low the distance because the movement should be 15 meters (close to the 14 of KING's calc), and how the wiki does it this should be the one. For High-High-Low, this is how you argue it should be, and I think you should be correct on this one.
 
1,366
181
@LIFE_OF_KING bro, demons cannot kill other demons with natural weapons. You need weapons that can erase the fabric of a demon (a soul) to kill them. You need SOUL ERASING weapons to completely put them down. These are things only the Exorcists/Exterminators have.

Edit 1: Also understanding a complex astrological book isn't EG levels of intelligence, it's at most Genius, and likely Gifted.

Edit 2: His range with the book is interdimensional.

Edit 3: For Alastor, get rid of the fanart.

Edit 4: For Stolas also, get rid of the fanart.

Edit 5: Stolas is FTL with telekinesis.
 
Last edited:
@LIFE_OF_KING bro, demons cannot kill other demons with natural weapons. You need weapons that can erase the fabric of a demon (a soul) to kill them. You need SOUL ERASING weapons to completely put them down. These are things only the Exorcists/Exterminators have.

Edit 1: Also understanding a complex astrological book isn't EG levels of intelligence, it's at most Genius, and likely Gifted.

Edit 2: His range with the book is interdimensional.

Edit 3: For Alastor, get rid of the fanart.

Edit 4: For Stolas also, get rid of the fanart.

Edit 5: Stolas is FTL with telekinesis.
About killing demons. It seems to have been accepted in the old discussions. A long time ago.
 
1,366
181
About killing demons. It seems to have been accepted in the old discussions. A long time ago.
Its canon that no demon gets 100% killed by other demons. Demons are literally just souls, killing them makes the souls inhabit something else, which is why some buildings have eyes and alastors microphone can speak.
 
1,366
181
Its canon that no demon gets 100% killed by other demons. Demons are literally just souls, killing them makes the souls inhabit something else, which is why some buildings have eyes and alastors microphone can speak.
Also, true death for demons just erases their existence. Normal deaths don't do that.

Edit: Demons can only truly die from the Exorcists, and then there dark energy inhabits inanimate objects. We don't know what happens to demons who die from other demons, but it's canon that only Exorcists can induce that type of death on them.
 
Last edited:
@LIFE_OF_KING bro, demons cannot kill other demons with natural weapons. You need weapons that can erase the fabric of a demon (a soul) to kill them. You need SOUL ERASING weapons to completely put them down. These are things only the Exorcists/Exterminators have.
But Alastor Kill demons...
Edit 1: Also understanding a complex astrological book isn't EG levels of intelligence, it's at most Genius, and likely Gifted.
Ok
Edit 2: His range with the book is interdimensional.
Well, the book takes people to other worlds

Edit 3: For Alastor, get rid of the fanart.

Edit 4: For Stolas also, get rid of the fanart.
They are official drawings
Edit 5: Stolas is FTL with telekinesis.
Is not make sense
 
1,366
181
But Alastor Kill demons...

Ok

Well, the book takes people to other worlds


They are official drawings

Is not make sense
Alastor doesn't have soul detsroying weapons.


Yes, but the description of interdimensional and some of it's uses are "external pocket realities or parts of other universes" being affected, and it can open portals to completely different worlds and pocket realties.

How else would he be able to move those planets, he is not physically moving nor reacting at that speed.

Alastor and Stolas are going to be downgraded to 8-A here
Aight.
 
3,010
1,046
Question. Why do they have immortality negation for killing demons if all it takes is to destroy their souls. Simple NPI bypasses that.
 

WeeklyBattles

VS Battles
Content Moderator
50,296
5,927
It does not ncessarily give you the ability to destroy souls, you need explicit soul manipulation to do that, something alastor does not have
 

WeeklyBattles

VS Battles
Content Moderator
50,296
5,927
No, the only way to kill demons is erasing them from existence as stated both in the pilot and by vivzie
 
3,010
1,046
It does not ncessarily give you the ability to destroy souls, you need explicit soul manipulation to do that, something alastor does not have
Untrue, soul manipulation and NPI are different things. The NPI page quite literally says it allows you to harm them. Why else do you think vs matches allow NPI users to harm ghosts and souls? If a character is able to defeat a soul, that's considered NPI.
 
1,366
181
The weapons Exorcists use bypass Demons type 2 due to Demons type 5, which requires a soul to be erased to kill them. And since they are literal souls constructed of dark energy, it bypasses there immortalities.

Also can we get rid of Charlie's type 1 and add longevity, hellborns don't have type 1 but instead just live very long lives.
 
3,010
1,046
No it allows you to interact with them, to actually destroy a soul is Soul Manipulation.

Its Immortality Negation since Demons have Immortalities type 2 and 5.
"It should be noted that the ability to interact with souls and other non-corporeal entities directly as if they were physical objects is usually considered Non-Physical Interaction and does not grant the user the ability to manipulate souls in other contexts."

Harming a soul counts as interaction my guy.
 
1,366
181
"It should be noted that the ability to interact with souls and other non-corporeal entities directly as if they were physical objects is usually considered Non-Physical Interaction and does not grant the user the ability to manipulate souls in other contexts."

Harming a soul counts as interaction my guy.
If you can interact with souls and other non-corporeal phenomina, but Exorcists weapons specifically erase the souls of Demons, and thus it would just be Soul Manipulation. Now, if it could interact with say the dark energy and the souls, it would be soul manipulation and npi
 
3,010
1,046
If you can interact with souls and other non-corporeal phenomina, but Exorcists weapons specifically erase the souls of Demons, and thus it would just be Soul Manipulation. Now, if it could interact with say the dark energy and the souls, it would be soul manipulation and npi
That sounds more like EE if meant to erase something. Even if it was soul manipulation, we don't give characters immortality negation for that, that's ridiculous.
 
1,366
181
That sounds more like EE if meant to erase something. Even if it was soul manipulation, we don't give characters immortality negation for that, that's ridiculous.
Ya I don't want regen negation either, low-godly regen negation is just a factor with soul erasing. Also for EE, the attacks specifically target the soul but do display physical damage, so it's really just soul manip.
 
Top