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This has been a long time coming.
I'm not going to lie to all of you; I've never been happy with Hellsing's profiles on this wiki. I've read and watched the series plenty of times, and I still enjoy going through it again despite its status as a dead meme at this point. But that much doesn't change the fact that the series' current wiki profiles are absolutely ridiculous. And much of their problems stem from exactly two sources:
Alucard and Walter C. Dornez.
Most of the profiles are currently scaled to these two, and the two of them scale to each other. This is not the problem. The problem is that these two have far, far, far too much wank and misinformation on their profiles for their own good, let alone the good of anyone who scales to them.
If you'll all bear with me...
The Alleged Feats
Alucard
Getting Rid of the Nonsense
Walter only has one feat that's relevant to the current state of the profiles, so we'll start with him first.
Walter tears through multiple buildings with his wires.
If you ask me, this is quite honestly the only feat here that's legitimate. However, the profile describes this feat in a way that blows it completely out of proportion.
Let's look at the scans:
For starters, cutting through multiple buildings with multiple wires (which is what he did here) does not equate to City Block level AP. But the real kicker is that the "multiple buildings" are just two decent-sized skyscrapers. Cutting through two buildings, even with a single wire, won't net you City Block level AP. That much I can say for certain.
Now that we have that out of the way, let's move on to Alucard.
Alucard survives city-block razing flames.
I'll begin by saying something that should be common sense by now; flames spreading across a city block area =/= City Block level flames. We see plenty of bombs, artillery and other explosives which level buildings throughout London, but we never see any flames that outright destroy buildings and city regions by themselves. Ergo, this "feat" is a non-factor. Next.
Level Zero Alucard overtakes all of London.
...With an army of ghouls. An army that doesn't destroy a single building on its own, and completely lacks anything impressive beyond numbers and scale. Even if we go by the fact that these ghouls "flooded" through London in an almost-literal sense, this is hardly what I would call City level destruction, especially since the city itself (or what was left of it after Millenium got done bombing it to shit) was left pretty much unaltered by the whole ordeal.
Alucard survives being slammed into a building by Walter.
Another one that's been sold for far more than it's worth. I'll let a few scans from that fight do most of the talking for this one:
Getting obvious out of the way, even if Al had been swung hard enough to wreck the building in-full, that's still nowhere near City Block level. However, as you can see, most of the building is well intact here. Walter swung him hard enough to destroy exactly one wall, and not even the entirety of said wall to boot. Nothing to see here. Moving on.
Alucard takes attacks from Walter without relying on Regenerationn.
This one is hilariously wrong. Don't believe me? Well:
Walter was mutilating Alucard very much in this manner throughout their fight. There was absolutely no point in which Alucard took those attacks without relying on Regenerationn; if it weren't for his Regenerationn, Walter's attacks would've left him deader than disco.
Furthermore, Baskerville (Al's hellhound) tried to take on Walter and got absolutely ruined.
This is relevant here, because later on Walter reanimates Baskerville's corpse with his wires like a puppet. It does this to Alucard:
A hound that can bite off Alucard's arm with ease got one-shot by Walter's wires, which can also tear through Alucard like he's made of paper. I think that speaks for itself. Moving along.
Alucard survives an SR-71 explosion.
I've saved the best for last, everyone. Dear Christ, this one is such a mess, I don't even know where to begin...
If I had to begin anywhere, it'd be the fact that an SR-71 exploding would never in a million years produce a city block busting yield. But that much is irrelevant, since the plane we see in the feat explicitly isn't an SR-71.
Of course, as far as fiction is concerned, the make and model of an exploding vehicle hardly matters. What really matters is the explosion itself. So let's see it:
That's a nice explosion, really. But I can tell just from looking at it that it's not large enough to yield City Block level numbers. Hell, the boat itself isn't even large enough to cover a city block, and the explosion (at best) ruins the surface of it.
But that's hardly it. No, the biggest issue here is that, if it were a City Block level explosion, Alucard tanking that with no injuries is a major outlier. Even if we forget the fact that Walter's wires are enough to shred his body like wheat, Al's other showings of durability do nothing to support such a high rating.
For example, we all remember this iconic scene from the beginning of the series:
A barrage of perfectly normal firearms did this. City Block level shotguns and assault rifles?
How about this little moment that happens in his fight with Walter?
Pretty sure the Jackal exploding doesn't even crack Small Building level, much less City Block level.
How about we look at an oft-overlooked moment in the manga that happens right after Alucard's plane crash? Mere moments after stepping out of the flames, some soldiers shoot him with assault rifles and a panzerfaust. The panzerfaust is what's important:
There are numerous other examples I could pull up to support my case, but I think you get the picture.
Conclusion and Propositions
I'm proposing a downgrade, verse-wide. I'm not sure why all of this was never brought to light before now, but as evidenced above, the current stats for these pages are unreliable to an extreme and are in dire need of a re-fix.
I'm not going to lie to all of you; I've never been happy with Hellsing's profiles on this wiki. I've read and watched the series plenty of times, and I still enjoy going through it again despite its status as a dead meme at this point. But that much doesn't change the fact that the series' current wiki profiles are absolutely ridiculous. And much of their problems stem from exactly two sources:
Alucard and Walter C. Dornez.
Most of the profiles are currently scaled to these two, and the two of them scale to each other. This is not the problem. The problem is that these two have far, far, far too much wank and misinformation on their profiles for their own good, let alone the good of anyone who scales to them.
If you'll all bear with me...
The Alleged Feats
Alucard
- Tanked being slammed through a large building.
- Survived flames that razed (at least) an entire city block.
- Took attacks from Walter without relying on Regenerationn.
- Survived an explosion capable of busting down a city block. Specifically, the explosion of an SR-71.
- Tore through multiple buildings with his wires.
Getting Rid of the Nonsense
Walter only has one feat that's relevant to the current state of the profiles, so we'll start with him first.
Walter tears through multiple buildings with his wires.
If you ask me, this is quite honestly the only feat here that's legitimate. However, the profile describes this feat in a way that blows it completely out of proportion.
Let's look at the scans:
For starters, cutting through multiple buildings with multiple wires (which is what he did here) does not equate to City Block level AP. But the real kicker is that the "multiple buildings" are just two decent-sized skyscrapers. Cutting through two buildings, even with a single wire, won't net you City Block level AP. That much I can say for certain.
Now that we have that out of the way, let's move on to Alucard.
Alucard survives city-block razing flames.
I'll begin by saying something that should be common sense by now; flames spreading across a city block area =/= City Block level flames. We see plenty of bombs, artillery and other explosives which level buildings throughout London, but we never see any flames that outright destroy buildings and city regions by themselves. Ergo, this "feat" is a non-factor. Next.
Level Zero Alucard overtakes all of London.
...With an army of ghouls. An army that doesn't destroy a single building on its own, and completely lacks anything impressive beyond numbers and scale. Even if we go by the fact that these ghouls "flooded" through London in an almost-literal sense, this is hardly what I would call City level destruction, especially since the city itself (or what was left of it after Millenium got done bombing it to shit) was left pretty much unaltered by the whole ordeal.
Alucard survives being slammed into a building by Walter.
Another one that's been sold for far more than it's worth. I'll let a few scans from that fight do most of the talking for this one:
Getting obvious out of the way, even if Al had been swung hard enough to wreck the building in-full, that's still nowhere near City Block level. However, as you can see, most of the building is well intact here. Walter swung him hard enough to destroy exactly one wall, and not even the entirety of said wall to boot. Nothing to see here. Moving on.
Alucard takes attacks from Walter without relying on Regenerationn.
This one is hilariously wrong. Don't believe me? Well:
Walter was mutilating Alucard very much in this manner throughout their fight. There was absolutely no point in which Alucard took those attacks without relying on Regenerationn; if it weren't for his Regenerationn, Walter's attacks would've left him deader than disco.
Furthermore, Baskerville (Al's hellhound) tried to take on Walter and got absolutely ruined.
This is relevant here, because later on Walter reanimates Baskerville's corpse with his wires like a puppet. It does this to Alucard:
A hound that can bite off Alucard's arm with ease got one-shot by Walter's wires, which can also tear through Alucard like he's made of paper. I think that speaks for itself. Moving along.
Alucard survives an SR-71 explosion.
I've saved the best for last, everyone. Dear Christ, this one is such a mess, I don't even know where to begin...
If I had to begin anywhere, it'd be the fact that an SR-71 exploding would never in a million years produce a city block busting yield. But that much is irrelevant, since the plane we see in the feat explicitly isn't an SR-71.
Of course, as far as fiction is concerned, the make and model of an exploding vehicle hardly matters. What really matters is the explosion itself. So let's see it:
That's a nice explosion, really. But I can tell just from looking at it that it's not large enough to yield City Block level numbers. Hell, the boat itself isn't even large enough to cover a city block, and the explosion (at best) ruins the surface of it.
But that's hardly it. No, the biggest issue here is that, if it were a City Block level explosion, Alucard tanking that with no injuries is a major outlier. Even if we forget the fact that Walter's wires are enough to shred his body like wheat, Al's other showings of durability do nothing to support such a high rating.
For example, we all remember this iconic scene from the beginning of the series:
A barrage of perfectly normal firearms did this. City Block level shotguns and assault rifles?
How about this little moment that happens in his fight with Walter?
Pretty sure the Jackal exploding doesn't even crack Small Building level, much less City Block level.
How about we look at an oft-overlooked moment in the manga that happens right after Alucard's plane crash? Mere moments after stepping out of the flames, some soldiers shoot him with assault rifles and a panzerfaust. The panzerfaust is what's important:
There are numerous other examples I could pull up to support my case, but I think you get the picture.
Conclusion and Propositions
I'm proposing a downgrade, verse-wide. I'm not sure why all of this was never brought to light before now, but as evidenced above, the current stats for these pages are unreliable to an extreme and are in dire need of a re-fix.
