Heaven Ascension Dio fights a hedgehog

[manu_zarri]

Yes, after fighting characthers such Alien X, Asriel etc.. let's see what will happend with the hedgehog

also if you wonder why here sonic is 2-C while HA Dio Low 2-C, that's because it dosen't matter either way

• Heaven Ascension Dio Post-Absorption used.
• Hyper Sonic used.
• Speed Equalizzed
• Location: somewhere in Nevada (madness combat Nevada)
• Distance: some metres

HA Dio:

Sonic:

Inconclusive

 

[StrymULTRA]

This won't be added regardless due of this being literally the same as Jotaro vs Shadow.

 

[manu_zarri]

This won't be added regardless due of this being literally the same as Jotaro vs Shadow.

HA Dio dosen't need time stop to win tho

 

[StrymULTRA]

HA Dio dosen't need time stop to win tho

Even Jotaro, they have the same poweset after all lol

 

[manu_zarri]

Even Jotaro, they have the same poweset after all lol

I mean, HA Dio can even just think, he wouldn't do time stop in 100% of cases

 

[StrymULTRA]

I mean, HA Dio can even just think, he wouldn't do time stop in 100% of cases

Jotaro as well, so?

 

[manu_zarri]

Jotaro as well, so?

then Jotaro match could be added if he can win without time stop

 

[StrymULTRA]

then Jotaro match could be added if he can win without time stop

Both of them lead a lot with TS, you can do a redux if you want since the og thread went to hell lmao

 

[manu_zarri]

Both of them lead a lot with TS, you can do a redux if you want since the og thread went to hell lmao

not intrested, but HA Dio got wincons even without TS here.

 

[Theuser789]

This won't be added regardless due of this being literally the same as Jotaro vs Shadow.

Sonic resists RW, Shadow didn't

 

[StrymULTRA]

Sonic resists RW, Shadow didn't

Then he stomps, almost all the hax HA DIO has are just a derivation of RW.

 

[manu_zarri]

Sonic resists RW, Shadow didn't

Which RW? like it isn't like you resist RW means you can resist to RW which manipulate concepts and quantuum or stuff like that.

 

[Theuser789]

Dio doesn't manipulate any of these, Sonic's resistance is already in the page

 

[manu_zarri]

Dio doesn't manipulate any of these, Sonic's resistance is already in the page

again, does sonic resist all Dio hax. those was just examples

 

[Theuser789]

Shadow lost because he did resist the hax, but not the RW, now that Sonic resists the RW, suddenly it matters if he resists every hax born of it?

 

[manu_zarri]

Shadow lost because he did resist the hax, but not the RW, now that Sonic resists the RW, suddenly it matters if he resists every hax born of it?

RW isn't nothing more than manipulating reallity, can Sonic resist to his soul being absorbed and stuff like that? if not then HA Dio still have wincons.

 

[Theuser789]

Using your logic Shadow shouldn't have lost then, since he resisted the hax but not the manipulation of reality, love myself some inconsistancy, even then Dio having wincons doesn't mean Sonic loses, anyways Sonic takes this, he resists RW and most of the hax it causes, and he can one shot with any hit

 

[manu_zarri]

Using your logic Shadow shouldn't have lost then, since he resisted the hax but not the manipulation of reality, love myself some inconsistancy

1) The match never got added
2) i didn't debate the match about that stuff. i voted incon.
3) even if it was added, why it's a point? match deletion is a thing.

even then Dio having wincons doesn't mean Sonic loses, anyways Sonic takes this, he resists RW and most of the hax it causes, and he can one shot with any hit

Again sonic resist Soul Hax absorption Multi+ BFR etc..? if not then NLF.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Soul Hax, Power Nulli, Corruption etc are literally just Reality Warping, is even stated in the game that these powers are just from manipulationg reality. For example Soul Hax resistance wouldn't work against HA DIO's Soul Hax because his Soul Hax is instead RW, but a guy who resists RW would resist their soul being absorbed despite not having feats from that because said Soul Hax, again, is just RW.

 

[manu_zarri]

Soul Hax, Power Nulli, Corruption etc are literally just Reality Warping, is even stated in the game that these powers are just from manipulationg reality. For example Soul Hax resistance wouldn't work against HA DIO's Soul Hax because his Soul Hax is instead RW, but a guy who resists RW would resist their soul being absorbed despite not having feats from that because said Soul Hax, again, is just RW.

Reallity Warping isn't a power on his own, and as said before, just because Sonic resist rellity warping dosen't men he resist any type of reallity warping, in this case with HA Dio but in some case there a characthers that manipulate even concepts with RW.

No Limits Fallacy.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Reallity Warping isn't a power on his own, and as said before, just because Sonic resist rellity warping dosen't men he resist any type of reallity warping, in this case with HA Dio but in some case there a characthers that manipulate even concepts with RW.

Why are you even commparating his RW to Concept hax for one. Second, RW is a power, it has literally a page under the Power & Abilities tag lmao

 

[manu_zarri]

Why are you even commparating his RW to Concept hax for one. Second, RW is a power, it has literally a page under the Power & Abilities tag lmao

1) Because reallity warping can also manipulate concept, and HA Dio one can manipulate souls.
2) Dosen't mean nothing, Reallity Warping itself is just warping reallity in many ways. shouldn't be taked as generic stuff

 

[StrymULTRA]

1) Because reallity warping can also manipulate concept, and HA Dio one can manipulate souls.

In the first case it would be straight up concept manip instead of RW, you know.

2) Dosen't mean nothing, Reallity Warping itself is just warping reallity in many ways. shouldn't be taked as generic stuff

Reality Warping (sometimes called Reality Alteration or Reality Manipulation) is a term used to describe the ability to manipulate reality itself.

Your words vs the page

 

[manu_zarri]

In the first case it would be straight up concept manip instead of RW, you know.

no, check reallity warping types. you can even reallity warping with time manipulation..

Reality Warping (sometimes called Reality Alteration or Reality Manipulation) is a term used to describe the ability to manipulate reality itself.

Your words vs the page

dosen't seems to say "reallity warping is a unique power and if you resist you resist all his possible application".

 

[Theuser789]

1) The match never got added

You are right, guess I was wrong

 

[StrymULTRA]

no, check reallity warping types. you can even reallity warping with time manipulation..

These are possible uses of it, not types.

dosen't seems to say "reallity warping is a unique power and if you resist you resist all his possible application".

Now that I think, Post-Absorption RW kinda is an "above baseline RW", since it's way superior to the Pre one in potency rather than usability. So you were right, but for a wrong reason.

 

[manu_zarri]

These are possible uses of it, not types.

even better, resisting to a normal reallity warping wouldn't resist to all of that uses

Now that I think, Post-Absorption RW kinda is an "above baseline RW", since it's way superior to the Pre one in potency rather than usability. So you were right, but for a wrong reason.

that's not the point but whatever

 

[sanicspood]

bruh

 

[manu_zarri]

bump