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He must fight evil once more, Lego Jesus vs A god of destruction
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So, the two things Rago's got going for him are his absorption and regen. However, Rago immediately has a disadvantage. There's no evidence that he can absorb conceptual powers, so anything from the Overlord is out of the question (and if he can, Rago just gets sealed). Furthermore, the First carries many weapons that have specialized abilities that Rago can't absorb due to not being from them. So right of the bat he has the sword of sanctuary that let's him predict every one of Rago's moves. Rago's arrogance is also a huge problem for him, seeing as he wil underestimate his foe.
FSM also has a massive experience advantage. FSM predtes the universe by a great degree, and created it when he was stll relatively a child. He ended up fighting the Overlord the moment he set foot in the universe, and proceded to create the most powerful martial arts in the verse.
Even his spin is quantifiably superior. FSM can carry and use wepons while spinning, meaning the Sword of Sanctuary is still in his hands. Furthermore, FSM can warp the terrain to his advantage with his powers. Furthermore, one touch and FSM has copied all of Rago's powers, erased him, or turned Diablo into a yo-yo.
All this is assuming FSM doesn't just BFR him to hell.
My vote is for the Spinjitzu master.
FSM also has a massive experience advantage. FSM predtes the universe by a great degree, and created it when he was stll relatively a child. He ended up fighting the Overlord the moment he set foot in the universe, and proceded to create the most powerful martial arts in the verse.
Even his spin is quantifiably superior. FSM can carry and use wepons while spinning, meaning the Sword of Sanctuary is still in his hands. Furthermore, FSM can warp the terrain to his advantage with his powers. Furthermore, one touch and FSM has copied all of Rago's powers, erased him, or turned Diablo into a yo-yo.
All this is assuming FSM doesn't just BFR him to hell.
My vote is for the Spinjitzu master.
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While likely not a stomp, im going to go with Rago and Nemesis.
For one, Nemesis has a ridiciculously big AP advantage by, as a lowball, having the powers of many upon many upon many beys that are each Low 2-C themselves. Could elaborate more, but it's not required against an opponent that is only guranteed to be baseline Low 2-C.
Second, while TFSM has a good pletora of hax, many of that Nemesis has and more and the quality of said hax as well. In addition, all of TFSM's abilities Nemesis doesnt have would just be given to Nemesis too via its ridiculous power absorption, and not just his powers but the powers of anyone he has ever fought in the Ninjago verse from beginning to last as well. And I see nothing TFSM has that can go against Nemesis's Mid-Godly regen.
My reply for now is lazy, but yeah going with Rago and Nemesis
For one, Nemesis has a ridiciculously big AP advantage by, as a lowball, having the powers of many upon many upon many beys that are each Low 2-C themselves. Could elaborate more, but it's not required against an opponent that is only guranteed to be baseline Low 2-C.
Second, while TFSM has a good pletora of hax, many of that Nemesis has and more and the quality of said hax as well. In addition, all of TFSM's abilities Nemesis doesnt have would just be given to Nemesis too via its ridiculous power absorption, and not just his powers but the powers of anyone he has ever fought in the Ninjago verse from beginning to last as well. And I see nothing TFSM has that can go against Nemesis's Mid-Godly regen.
My reply for now is lazy, but yeah going with Rago and Nemesis
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ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Most of FSM's powers ignore dura, mid godly is moot while in hell or turned into a yo-yo, one touch is enough to do these, he predicts every move with the sword, reverses gravity... WIth the precog FSM does all of this first.
Also forgot to mention, Spinjitzu raises AP by quite a bit. With Spinitzu, the Ninja casually steamroll through enimies like the anacondrai, who both out number and outpower them individually. Another time was when the ninja beat entire army of skeletons who could easily defeat them on a 2 on 1 fight. That's without factoring the above experience gap. Case in point: The FSM is much more experienced than his children. Both of them are the 2 gretest martial artists in the world. This is also assuming FSM doesn't use his copy or raise his stats via any of the elements.
Still don't see what keeps him from BFR'ing him to hell anyway.
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For one, ignoring durability against a spinning piece of metal will do what exactly? And how exactly does it make Mid-Godly moot again?
Also, BFRing Nemesis won't work. Even if Nemesis doesn't get all of FSM's abilities, he still has the powers of all beys in the Metal series. For fairness sake we can say the Legendary Blader's beys. Even with just their abilities, Nemesis would gain BFR of his own (and a bunch of other stuff) and Nemesis already has the power to create portals to other universes. Not to mention, by having the powers of lets say Kyoya's Leone, Nemesis gains resistance to BFR like it does. Long story short, BFR is completely moot here.
Raising AP still won't cover the very very very large difference in AP here. FSM is only regarded as likely creating the Ninjago universe and even taking that, thats baseline. Nemesis is ridiculously superior to a large amount of other Low 2-C's and has all of their strength combined anyway.
Also, BFRing Nemesis won't work. Even if Nemesis doesn't get all of FSM's abilities, he still has the powers of all beys in the Metal series. For fairness sake we can say the Legendary Blader's beys. Even with just their abilities, Nemesis would gain BFR of his own (and a bunch of other stuff) and Nemesis already has the power to create portals to other universes. Not to mention, by having the powers of lets say Kyoya's Leone, Nemesis gains resistance to BFR like it does. Long story short, BFR is completely moot here.
Raising AP still won't cover the very very very large difference in AP here. FSM is only regarded as likely creating the Ninjago universe and even taking that, thats baseline. Nemesis is ridiculously superior to a large amount of other Low 2-C's and has all of their strength combined anyway.
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ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Well, for starters, you can't regen from bein turned into somethin else. It's unlikely Rago will ever hit the FSM since he predicts every move and has multiple teleportation tricks, as well as Elemental Intangibility.
The BFR is fair enough
AP is enough to prevent a one shot, and with one touch FSM copies all of Rago's powers
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Assuming Nemesis doesn't just get those abilities when absorbing FSM's powers, Nemesis can also predict moves using precog, that can go as far as thousands of years into the future, and by having the power of all beys teleportation would be a cake-walk for it do to as well. Also forgot to mention, unlike other beys, Nemesis doesn't just have a single spirit form. When taking the power of beys for itself, Nemesis is able to create dark replicates of other bey's spirit forms to use as weapons for itself. EACH with their own powers, Low 2-C AP, and Mid-Godly regen. We can restrict it to just legendary bladers and a few others and that would result in like 13 different spirits to use as puppets to attack with.
Again, assuming he'll be able to touch Nemesis. And based on what? I hardly see how Nemesis doesn't just one shot here when FSM is much much much closer to baseline Low 2-C than Nemesis is.
EDIT: And by "darkness", if you mean created by dark energy then yes. It being the God of Destruction and all lol.
Again, assuming he'll be able to touch Nemesis. And based on what? I hardly see how Nemesis doesn't just one shot here when FSM is much much much closer to baseline Low 2-C than Nemesis is.
EDIT: And by "darkness", if you mean created by dark energy then yes. It being the God of Destruction and all lol.
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I'll vote inconclusive for now.
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Taking this one step at a time, I still don't see whats stopping Nemesis from just taking literally all of FSM's arsenal and more for itself to use back against FSM.
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"FSM forsees this"
Which Nemesis can to. At much better degrees.
"Time stops"
Resistant to. Galaxy Pegasus is resistant to space-time hax, whos far inferior to Cosmic Pegasus, which Nemesis has the powers of.
"Waves"
With what exactly?
"Far more experienced".
Doesnt matter. Nemesis can gain powers from beys it literally never fought before and use them better.
And added with the fact that Nemesis can also just absorb FSM's soul into itself to also gain his powers.
Which Nemesis can to. At much better degrees.
"Time stops"
Resistant to. Galaxy Pegasus is resistant to space-time hax, whos far inferior to Cosmic Pegasus, which Nemesis has the powers of.
"Waves"
With what exactly?
"Far more experienced".
Doesnt matter. Nemesis can gain powers from beys it literally never fought before and use them better.
And added with the fact that Nemesis can also just absorb FSM's soul into itself to also gain his powers.
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Creation? I thought you were arguing time stop? Which one are you going with?
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As far as sealing goes, how good is it? Because Nemesis can always weaken it to remain completely unaffected and it took the power of Gaia (mother-nature) enhanced by 4 full-powered Low 2-C beys to seal Nemesis away, who was able to break free.
Matter manip could work depending on if it can hit Nemesis. Nemesis still has a bunch of defensive combos it can pull off like mid-godly regen, Low 2-C mid-godly dark spirits who can protect it, passive and active barriers, and more.
This will likely be my last reply here for tonight as I must get up early for tomorrow so i'll come back then.
Matter manip could work depending on if it can hit Nemesis. Nemesis still has a bunch of defensive combos it can pull off like mid-godly regen, Low 2-C mid-godly dark spirits who can protect it, passive and active barriers, and more.
This will likely be my last reply here for tonight as I must get up early for tomorrow so i'll come back then.
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The FSM has also telphathy thanks to the power of the mind,a dn that's one of the ways he can predict his opponent's moves. Not to mention, he can use it to give Nemesis a headhache to stun him, touch him, and power mimicry.
If Rago also decides to copy the powers of the Overlord (if he even can), than the FSM can just go for sealing.
Also, the FSM can use time Travel and try defeating him in the past.
For this and Yobo's reasons, I vote the Mega Block.
If Rago also decides to copy the powers of the Overlord (if he even can), than the FSM can just go for sealing.
Also, the FSM can use time Travel and try defeating him in the past.
For this and Yobo's reasons, I vote the Mega Block.
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Forgot about this. Will get to this later but will say right now that Telepathy is completely useless on Nemesis. A Beyblade doesn't have a mind.
And sealing can also be moot if weakened enough.
And sealing can also be moot if weakened enough.
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