Hax Potency vs Layers

[Sniper670]

Stuff like "My X is 100 times more powerful than yours", how would it be treated in layers, 100 layers?

If No? Why not?

 

[Bobsican]

No, and because that's just unquantificable compared to an actual resistance, a hax being "more powerful" only matters on that regard when it's smurf hax.

 

[Sniper670]

it's less of a no and more of a case by case, as everything id

within the cosmology, the stronger Potency overpowers resistance(Duh). And let's say their hax and resistances are = on the baseline and we apply the 100 times more powerful.

Can we apply it now?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

No, because "More Powerful" and what "Times" equals a layer is unquantified. For example, does a hax need to be 1.01x more powerful, 1.5x more powerful, 2x, 3x, 4x? How powerful does a hax need to be compared to another, to overpower a baseline resistance? We don't know.

As such, saying 100x more powerful is 100x layers, is based on the headcanon logic of 1 Layer = 1x, and sed 1x is enough to bypass a layer of resistance despite not knowing what a layer of resistance can handle. But if that's not confirmed in verse, then that's simply not the case.

 

[Delta333]

I keep thinking about it many times, but if it's not equal to one layer then even baseline hax being amplified by infinite times and normal baseline hax are essentially the same? Since both don't reach one layer anyways.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I keep thinking about it many times, but if it's not equal to one layer then even baseline hax being amplified by infinite times and normal baseline hax are essentially the same? Since both don't reach one layer anyways.

It is strange, as infinity allows for infinite division, and even those divisions will each be an infinity greater than any finite resistance or potency.

 

[Delta333]

It is strange, as infinity allows for infinite division, and even those divisions will each be an infinity greater than any finite resistance or potency.

ok so let's change it to 100000000 x baseline, how many layers will it scale? or still baseline since both don't reach one layer?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

ok so let's change it to 100000000 x baseline, how many layers will it scale? or still baseline since both don't reach one layer?

We literally don't know, it's Unknown, we don't know what equals a layer, and we don't know how much of an X increase is equivalent to a layer. No matter how big you make the number, if we don't know any guess will be just that, a guess.

There is no system that fits all verses with it comes to layers and what qualifies, as such it's best to let the verse decide that instead.

 

[Delta333]

We literally don't know, it's Unknown, we don't know what equals a layer, and we don't know how much of an X increase is equivalent to a layer. No matter how big you make the number, if we don't know any guess will be just that, a guess.

There is no system that fits all verses with it comes to layers and what qualifies, as such it's best to let the verse decide that instead.

I'm aware that it relies on in-verse context, but I'm referring to battle boarding context and how will "x times hax" be applied in a match tho.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I'm aware that it relies on in-verse context, but I'm referring to battle boarding context and how will "x times hax" be applied in a match tho.

I believe it's based on the baseline. For example, if the hax in the verse has 5 layers, all upscaling from planetary, then the same hax that is galaxy level would be able to overpower resistances based off of it.

The reason being, if you argue that their resistances are galaxy level because of layering, then all those who scale to said layering would also be galaxy level with their hax.

 

[Theglassman12]

It’s unquantifiable unless they elaborate on the specific mechanics on the potency.