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Hax and Ability revisions for Bakugan

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1. I say Transformation. When it was used, it made the other Bakugan take new forms and completely changed them.

3. That seems fine by me, honestly.

4. I'd say that, in most scenarios, maybe not? I mean, there is never anything saying that they lost the ability to use previously known moves and abilities, but then again, to the Brawlers in the show, they'd have no reason to use them as they get newer and better abilities (usually) upon evolution. To be honest, not too sure on that.

5. Technically yes, since he is still connected to it and can draw power from it, he should still be able to access abilities from it.
 
1. Well, in terms of Reactive Evo, I guess the best example is Shin Godzilla. Fusion Drago can adapt beyond his evolution, as reactive evo is not true evolution. He could just perma-spam Chaos Ability X, I guess. But high level Stat Amping is best, as Chaos Ability X will be applied to base Drago each new match.

2. Okay, that's fine.

3. Sounds more like type 8 immortality to me. But if the sum total of all deceased Bakugan go to the Doom Dimension, can't Drago just transfer himself back to the Perfect Core. There is Low-Godly regen, just not in the way you described. Because Neo Drago onwards, it's just a weaker physical manifestation of Perfect Drago.

4. Probably. But the only restricted or non-existent abilities would be the Fusion Abilities, which are likely unique to that specific Bakugan.

5. Perfect Core Drago was explicitly shown as using all 6 attributed attacks. I don't think any Drago post that bar Vexos has displayed that. To use Perfect Core abilities, Drago would have to be completely bloodlusted, to the point where he no longer has any semblance of rational thought.
 
Kk.

On Point 4, I believe that reason would only count inside the Bakugan verse as, like you said, Dan obviously wouldnt use a lowly level ability like Boosted Dragon against the likes of Spectra or Barodius. But in the likes of Vs battles, the old abilities should be perfectly usuable in the lower forms, right?
 
Oh, you click on the character's bakugan form/name and it should pop up.

However, that site is kinda poorly made (for some reason lmao), so the descriptions aren't fully visible sometimes unless you copy the message and paste it somewhere else. :/
 
...Thinking about it, we should specifiy which forms on Drago's profile have access to all of these powers. Like, we should make a note at the bottom of the page saying something like "Base Dragonoid, Delta Dragonoid and Ultimate Dragonoid do not have access to every single ability listed in the Powers and Abilities section. For their own abilities, please look towards their Ability Cards for guidance".

Something along those lines, right?
 
1.Ohhh okay I see. Alright then im fine with whichever one you pick.

3. Ahh k. Well im fine with Type 8 immortality too I was just unsure about this one before.

4. Why fusion abilities? I dont remember them being unique

5. Actually, that only happened when Spectra tried using the specific Forbidden Cards on Drago, which he'd need to be completely bloodlusted to use. But if its his normal Perfect Core specific abilities, he should be able to use them only in weaker variations when in his higher forms.

PS- since Drago was able to absorb the Attribute Energies of the 6 soldiers, that means he also absorbed their powers. So Drago without Code Eve's power has Passive Power Absorbtion and with her power he has Passive and Automatic Power Absorbtion. Or well, Power Stealing.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
1.Ohhh okay I see. Alright then im fine with whichever one you pick.

3. Ahh k. Well im fine with Type 8 immortality too I was just unsure about this one before.

4. Why fusion abilities? I dont remember them being unique

5. Actually, that only happened when Spectra tried using the specific Forbidden Cards on Drago, which he'd need to be completely bloodlusted to use. But if its his normal Perfect Core specific abilities, he should be able to use them only in weaker variations when in his higher forms.

PS- since Drago was able to absorb the Attribute Energies of the 6 soldiers, that means he also absorbed their powers. So Drago without Code Eve's power has Passive Power Absorbtion and with her power he has Passive and Automatic Power Absorbtion. Or well, Power Stealing.
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5. Weren't there several instances where Drago pulled power form the Perfect Core when he was in a pinch?

Also, as for that last bit, I am alright with that, presonally.
 
Yeah they're was, starting from when he and Helios first fought on New Vestroia.

Also, I have another question.

This seems unlikely, but shouldnt Titanium and Fusion Drago also have the complete moveset of Perect Core Drago? After all, like mentioned for the 100th time (lol), they are able to use to use the powers of all Bakugan in existence due to receiving Code Eve's power. That means, it would include Drago's Perfect Core form. So then it would mean all of Perfect Core Drago's powers, including omnipresence, would be accessable to both Titanium and Fusion Drago.

Would this be correct or too vague?
 
What exactly do you guys want me to check? I read the thread and it seems like you guys are making good judgement, though I think its best to chock up ignoring an enemies Defense stat as gameplay mechanics and not durability negation.
 
True.....

But what Im proposing is, could they ever access it passively? Like replicate Perfect Drago's omnipresence whenever they want? It would mean they can't permanently have it, they can only awaken it as an ability to use if they ever felt in the mood for it.
 
@Kukui I am, personally, still not certain of that. We'll have to wait for others to put their 2 cents in.

@Darkanine Honestly, I feel as though we are actually nearing the end of what we can get and apply for these forms of Drago. I would assume just a few more things and we'd be able to open up Drago's profile and then add the changes.

...Also I don't want to seem pushy or anything, but could you calc something for me?
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:

4. Why fusion abilities? I dont remember them being unique

5. Actually, that only happened when Spectra tried using the specific Forbidden Cards on Drago, which he'd need to be completely bloodlusted to use. But if its his normal Perfect Core specific abilities, he should be able to use them only in weaker variations when in his higher forms.
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4. Fusion Abilities are activated as a combination of two or more abilities if I remember correctly, so I was wrong on that one.

5. Well, Perfect Core Drago's abilities would likely be available to Neo Drago and above, but the specific Forbidden Ability Cards mentioned should probably be explained in a note as only being available to Vexos Drago, or bloodlusted Neo Drago and above.
 
Found some more abilities for Drago

Dragon Hummer- Power/Hax Nullification and increases Drago's speed

Dragon Contender- Stat Manipulation as it returns the opponents level of power back to their base level and increases Drago's power at the same time.

Neo Legend X- Immunity to all 6 attributes and increases his power however he must activate Vestroia X first.

Dianos Cocos X- Will always keep Drago's level of power above his opponents by at least a decent amount. However if the oppoennt has greater power than Drago when this ability is activated, it becomes useless.

Fire Reflector- Reflects the Opponents ability so Power Reflection

Helix Shield- Gives Drago the same amount of power as the opponent

Spinning Wall- Power/Hax Nullification and transfers power from the opponent to Drago at the same time

Dragon Phalanx- Same thing as Spinning Wall only it nullifies all an oppnents abilities but it transfers less power from the oppoent to Drago.

Looks good or no?
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Found some more abilities for Drago
Dragon Hummer- Power/Hax Nullification and increases Drago's speed

Dragon Contender- Stat Manipulation as it returns the opponents level of power back to their base level and increases Drago's power at the same time.

Neo Legend X- Immunity to all 6 attributes and increases his power however he must activate Vestroia X first.

Dianos Cocos X- Will always keep Drago's level of power above his opponents by at least a decent amount. However if the oppoennt has greater power than Drago when this ability is activated, it becomes useless.

Fire Reflector- Reflects the Opponents ability so Power Reflection

Helix Shield- Gives Drago the same amount of power as the opponent

Spinning Wall- Power/Hax Nullification and transfers power from the opponent to Drago at the same time

Dragon Phalanx- Same thing as Spinning Wall only it nullifies all an oppnents abilities but it transfers less power from the oppoent to Drago.

Looks good or no?
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Seems alright to me. Nice finds
 
Kk. Thanks

Also guys could you also go to the other Bakugan revision thread for a min?

I found something that should give Drago another upgrade to his stats.
 
4. Ahhh k

5. Yes of course. Only Vexos Drago (and Titanium, Mercury, Fusion and Aeroblitz Drago since, you know, can use all Bakugan abilities) can use Forbidden Cards. But Perfect Core abilties should be accessable to Neo Drago and above.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
4. Ahhh k
5. Yes of course. Only Vexos Drago (and Titanium, Mercury, Fusion and Aeroblitz Drago since, you know, can use all Bakugan abilities) can use Forbidden Cards. But Perfect Core abilties should be accessable to Neo Drago and above.
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If only those forms of Drago can use all Bakugan abilities then why was there even a debate about Drago's use of Ablities on Drago vs Yhwach? That's Blitz Drago iirc

Plus I was under the impression Blitz Drago could use all Abilities anyway, since he still had access to the Perfect Core, had all six Attribute Energies.
 
There's actually a difference.

Having access to the core only gives you the power of the attributes, only being able to use a limited numder of abilities from all 6 attributes.

But by getting the Sacred Orb's power, not only is Drago able to use all 6 attributes, but that allows him to literally have acess to ANY and EVERY ability all Bakugan in existence have. Every one.

Now Blitz Drago could use abilities from all 6 attributes due to his connection to the Core but that wouldnt give him all bakugan abilities.

However I would like to ask. Since Drago got a fragment of the Sacred Orb's power before in the form of the Element, wouldnt that mean Lumino and Blitz Drago could likely use all Bakugan abilities just to a lower extent than his later forms? After all, it may be a fragment but its still power coming from the Sacred Orb.
 
@Kukui

Yeah, I agree with that. Since the Element is a part of Code Eve, it should technically yield similar results as straight up having her power.

Also, Dharak got the form of Phantom Dharak by infusing Blitz Drago's DNA into himself. If this is the case, shouldn't he also have a bit of the Element inside of him, and therefore comparable hax to Drago?
 
Yeah I agree with both.

So that means Lumino Drago, Blitz Drago and Phantom Dharak would have all Bakugan abilities too......

Damn.....the OPnes here is getting ridiculously big lol.
 
Yeah... And at this point, we've got so much stuff gathered up, I don't even know if we have anything left to look through...

In a little while, we can gather all powers/Abilites into one comment, along with anything else being inserted into Drago's and Dharak's profiles, and then we can request them to be unlocked.

After that, we can move back to the other thread I made and continue discussing the next big topic. Vladitor and Leonidas revisions.
 
Yeah I think we found enough abilities notable enough to be listed on their own. I wanted to get enough of them so that they could individually stand out But I think we have enough. All other abilities can be chalked up through the Note that will be placed on Drago's, Code Eve's and Dharak's pages.

Just realized now Razenoid will be getting them too lmao

I have next to no knowledge on the Bakugan games so i'll let everyone else more knowledgeable deal with it.
 
I think that the first post seems reasonable.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Yeah I think we found enough abilities notable enough to be listed on their own. I wanted to get enough of them so that they could individually stand out But I think we have enough. All other abilities can be chalked up through the Note that will be placed on Drago's, Code Eve's and Dharak's pages.
Just realized now Razenoid will be getting them too lmao

I have next to no knowledge on the Bakugan games so i'll let everyone else more knowledgeable deal with it.
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Alrighty then.

I know quite a bit about the bakugan games, as does Dragontime iirc. If anyone else does, inform us on This thread so we can start the new topic right away.
 
Actually wait, some more abilities that are worth noting:

Neo Valute- Nullifies an opponents ability and returns their level of power to the user's base level.

Saiam Low- Reduces an opponents power to Absolute Zero without harming them. But abilities can still be used and it can be stopped if the opponent adds power at the last second, transfers power or fuses power with an ally). So i'd say this allows Drago to ignore Conventinal Durability.

Haos Freeze- Instantly stops time to a complete stop, Nullifies all of the opponents abilities and can allow allies to come help.

Pure Light- Can revive anyone that has lost no matter what side they're on (and since this allowed Marucho to get back Preyas from Klaus, this also implies that those who are restored will temporaily become the users allies.)

CopyCat- Copies an opponents ability they used or are using

Mega impact- Adds power to the user, and makes a resistance shield to block physical attacks. Also takes away power from the opponent every time they attack it.

Water Refrain- Nullifies and temporaily blocks abilities from activating for some time.

Jeer Frontier- Puts the opponent into an illusion and prevents them from activating any abilties. Also decreases the user's power.

Dispel Closer- Absorbs the opponents ability

Evil Copy- Transforms into an opponent and gains all of their abilities. The abilities also used by the user of Evil Copy are stronger than the original users abilities.

Okay that should do it. All other abilities will be chalked up with the Note on the profiles.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Actually wait, some more abilities that are worth noting:
Neo Valute- Nullifies an opponents ability and returns their level of power to the user's base level.

Saiam Low- Reduces an opponents power to Absolute Zero without harming them. But abilities can still be used and it can be stopped if the opponent adds power at the last second, transfers power or fuses power with an ally). So i'd say this allows Drago to ignore Conventinal Durability.

Haos Freeze- Instantly stops time to a complete stop, Nullifies all of the opponents abilities and can allow allies to come help.

Pure Light- Can revive anyone that has lost no matter what side they're on (and since this allowed Marucho to get back Preyas from Klaus, this also implies that those who are restored will temporaily become the users allies.)

CopyCat- Copies an opponents ability they used or are using

Mega impact- Adds power to the user, and makes a resistance shield to block physical attacks. Also takes away power from the opponent every time they attack it.

Water Refrain- Nullifies and temporaily blocks abilities from activating for some time.

Jeer Frontier- Puts the opponent into an illusion and prevents them from activating any abilties. Also decreases the user's power.

Dispel Closer- Absorbs the opponents ability

Evil Copy- Transforms into an opponent and gains all of their abilities. The abilities also used by the user of Evil Copy are stronger than the original users abilities.

Okay that should do it. All other abilities will be chalked up with the Note on the profiles.
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...Drago is really OP.

Just a reminder, we need to make a Note at the bottom of the page as to what forms can access all of these powers and which ones can't, as well as our reasoning as to why they can or can't.
 
OP is not remotely the word to describe this lol.

How about this-

Note: Due to Drago obtaining the Element and Code Eve's power, which contain the DNA codes of all Bakugan, he is able to use the powers and abilities of every Bakugan in existence (except for Leonidas, Vladitor, and Mechanical Bakugan) but as Lumino and Blitz Drago, he can only use these abilities to certain extents


Note: Due to Code Eve being the Mother Creator of Bakugan, and containing the DNA codes of all Bakugan, she is able to use the powers and abilities of every Bakugan in existence (except for Leonidas, Vladitor, and Mechanical Bakugan)


Note: Due to Dharak/Razenoid obtaining Drago's DNA after Drago obtained the Element, he is able to use the powers and abilities of every Bakugan in existence to certain extents (except for Leonidas, Vladitor, and Mechanical Bakugan)
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
OP is not remotely the word to describe this lol.
How about this-

Note: Due to Drago obtaining the Element and Code Eve's power, which contain the DNA codes of all Bakugan, he is able to use the powers and abilities of every Bakugan in existence (except for Leonidas, Vladitor, and Mechanical Bakugan) but as Lumino and Blitz Drago, he can only use these abilities to certain extents


Note: Due to Code Eve being the Mother Creator of Bakugan, and containing the DNA codes of all Bakugan, she is able to use the powers and abilities of every Bakugan in existence (except for Leonidas, Vladitor, and Mechanical Bakugan)


Note: Due to Dharak/Razenoid obtaining Drago's DNA after Drago obtained the Element, he is able to use the powers and abilities of every Bakugan in existence to certain extents (except for Leonidas, Vladitor, and Mechanical Bakugan)
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Code Eve and Dharak/Razenoid's seem fine. Only thing is that it should specify that Base Dharak doesn't have the capablity of using all abilities. Only his three evolved forms can.

As for Drago, I believe that a little bit more specification is required.

Note: Due to Drago obtaining the Element and Code Eve's power, which contain the DNA codes of all Bakugan, he is able to use the powers and abilities of every Bakugan in existence (except for Leonidas, Vladitor, and Mechanical Bakugan) but as Lumino and Blitz Drago, he can only use these abilities to certain extents. The only forms that are capable of fully utilizing every Bakugan Ability are Titanium, Mercury, Fusion and Aeroblitz Dragonoid.

All I did was add one sentence at the end. Otherwise, these are all perfect imo. What does everyone else think?
 
Perfect.

And does this seem better for Dharak-

Note: Due to Phantom Dharak/Razenoid obtaining Drago's DNA after Drago obtained the Element, he is able to use the powers and abilities of every Bakugan in existence to certain extents (except for Leonidas, Vladitor, and Mechanical Bakugan). The only forms that are capable of fully Ultilizing every Bakugan ability are Razenoid and Evolved Razenoid.
 
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