Hades Izanami (Low 5-B) vs Kaguya Otsutsuki (Low 5-B)

[Zeldasmash]

Two major antagonists of their respective franchises based on Izanami-No-Mikoto.
Speed Equalized

Who wins?

 

[Brunout]

Izanami

Izanami can counter pratically every technique that Kaguya could use.

And can manipulate time and attack directly the soul

And unlike Kaguya, Izanami can't be killed by conventional ways

 

[Drellix]

Izanami for reasions above

 

[Zeldasmash]

Bump

 

[Zeldasmash]

Bump

 

[BreloomFanboy]

Kaguya imo

Hades has no counter to BFR(via Amenominaka or Yomotsu). No to mention, if Kaguya uses gudodama defensively, Hades wouldn't be able touch/reach her. According to Hades profile, she doesn't have levitation or True-Flight meaning she has no way affect Kaguya in mid-air.

 

[Brunout]

Huh? of course that Hades can levitate

Look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8PIcqM-Zgw

She is clearly levitating

 

[Brunout]

Also, Kaguya can't deal with Izanami's time stopper ability, intangibility, and immortality.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

If Hades can levitate, it needs to be shown on her profile. Anyway, Hades doesn't have infinite attack speed, therefore she's not stopping time before Kaguya uses gudodama. As I already mentioned, Kaguya doesn't need to actually kill her, just BFR her with Ameno.

 

[Drellix]

Speeds are equalized, so even if someone has infinite attack speed, they are still equalized

 

[Zeldasmash]

Bump

 

[Zeldasmash]

Bump

 

[BreloomFanboy]

Kaguya still wins imo

 

[Szayelaporrothefabulous]

Hades stomps.

 

[Szayelaporrothefabulous]

Izanami>>>100%Hakumen>Soul King Yhwach>>>Kaguya

 

[Brunout]

Izanami>>>100%Hakumen>Soul King Yhwach>>>Kaguya

Izanami is not stronger than 100% Hakumen.


Rachel said that Hakumen 100% has high chances of defeating her. The only problem to him would be her immortality

 

[Szayelaporrothefabulous]

Izanami=100%Hakumen>Soul King Yhwach>>>Kaguya

Better?

 

[BreloomFanboy]

Why use A>B>C logic?

Yhwach isn't canonically above Kaguya anyways.

 

[Szayelaporrothefabulous]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/416632

 

[BreloomFanboy]

Canonically =/= Online Fictional Debate

 

[Szayelaporrothefabulous]

Hades still has superior speed and better hax.

 

[Szayelaporrothefabulous]

And higher intelligence.

 

[Szayelaporrothefabulous]

Oh, right, "speed equalized".

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Doesnt Kaguya have space-time manipulation on her profile?

 

[Drellix]

Pretty sure Reality Warping ends that fast enough.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

What are Hades reality warping feats? Unless she has something that bypasses the Gudodama and Mid-High regen, she gets BFRed. Not even going to mention Kaguya's Space-Time manipulation.

 

[Drellix]

What are Hades reality warping feats? Unless she has something that bypasses the Gudodama and Mid-High regen, she gets BFRed. Not even going to mention Kaguya's Space-Time manipulation.

Phenomenon Interventio is an ability that is called "The Power of the God". It can change its target's state from "exist" to "not exist" and vice versa. If it cannot be determined if the target actually "exists" or not, it is almost impossible to perform a Phenomenon Intervention. Since a sudden disappearance of the target would shock those surrounding it, their memories are altered.</span>

Phenomenon Intervention also allows the user to erase one reality and overwrite it with another (a different world that is a result of an existing possibility). In other words, it imposes a result of a certain phenomenon from a parallel world into the current world. It changes a possibility into reality.

I took this from the Wiki but I can guarantee it's accurate. I just don't have the freedom to get on my game and get the info rn.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

So Void Manipulation? How does it bypass the Gudodama?

 

[Drellix]

So Void Manipulation? How does it bypass the Gudodama?

Uh...no? That's reality warping.

"Phenomenon Intervention also allows the user to erase one reality and overwrite it with another (a different world that is a result of an existing possibility). In other words, it imposes a result of a certain phenomenon from a parallel world into the current world. It changes a possibility into reality."

Did you read this part?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Drellix

It would be very nice if we could have that power on Hades' profile so that you don't have to explain it each and every time.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Hades wins easy don't see how kaguya is beating someone who can manipulate time, damage souls on a conceptual level, has intangibility and reality warping not to mention being immortal.

 

[Drellix]

@Drellix
It would be very nice if we could have that power on Hades' profile so that you don't have to explain it each and every time.

Alright.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

@Drellix

Erasing someone from reality is Void Manipulation. Not like this is relevant, unless it bypasses/ignores the gudodama.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Since when can gudodama's stop you from being erased from existence? This is sounding like wank to me.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

It doesn't... But it definitely blocks LoS. Hades also doesn't have a counter to Amenominaka and Yomotsu Hirasaka.

 

[Drellix]

It doesn't... But it definitely blocks LoS. Hades also doesn't have a counter to Amenominaka and Yomotsu Hirasaka.

Do I need to quote it again? Really?

Phenomenon Intervention also allows the user to erase one reality and overwrite it with another (a different world that is a result of an existing possibility). In other words, it imposes a result of a certain phenomenon from a parallel world into the current world. It changes a possibility into reality

This negates everything that Kaguya could ever do. This could keep her from existing. Read this thoroughly.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

._.

The Gudodama is a 360┬░ forcefield, unless PI ignores/bypasses forcefields, she gets BFRed by Yomotsu Hirasaka.

 

[Drellix]

._.
The Gudodama is a 360┬░ forcefield, unless PI ignores/bypasses forcefields, she gets BFRed by Yomotsu Hirasaka.

Gudodama never existed. Yomotsu Hirasaka never existed. If a possibility exists within the Infinite Timelines, she can make it reality. There are timelines where any of those abilities don't work or never came to fruitation. She can change a possiblity into a reality.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

@Drellix

._.
The Gudodama is a 360┬░ forcefield, unless PI ignores/bypasses forcefields, she gets BFRed by Yomotsu Hirasaka.

Actually read it this time please, thank you.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@BreloomFanboy I would apreciate it if you drop this gudodama argument, having a forcefield doesn't prevent you from being erased from existence, hades is making possibilities into realities therefore she can simply make a possibility of kaguya not existing real. And BFR isn't doing anything to someone who can make basically infinite possibilities real, she can simply make a possibility real where she wasn't BFR or where kaguya didn't even have such an ability.