Power Stealing + Negation against resistance to power stealing remains an option
It fits this
Several dozens of meter into the sky
Like Aiger explaned, he has no in-character moves, he use any abilities he has depending on the situation
I can see Kai getting out of it with the Shadow Element ngl, or blowing it up throught AP
How does it work? Does Kai use it in character? Can he copy genetically unique abilities?
That's a pretty big NLF ngl.
Doesn't make her less skilled. And it was because of both him and Kinshiki
Not saying Kai
How does it work? Kaguyas sensory has no visual queues, it's a by product of the unique chakra she has in her body which inherently comes from her cells and soul.
Yeah but that doesn't save him from stuff like her ice dimension since his ash still needs to travel. Meaning his ash would be equally restrained as his physically body.
Doesn't seem to be enough against Kaguyas ice which can be as large as a mountain.
So there was no situation where teleportation or intangibility would become useful?
To blow it up he would need to somehow output the AP. Which he can't if he's restrained.
Kai is 4-C, his AP is like billion times higher. He could potentially one shot Kaguya if he were to land an attack, and Kaguya doesn't have any passive defense hax like infinity
By touching the victim, you can copy all his hax + potency. And the user can use multiple Elements at once too
EPs are genetically unique to the user, so yes he can
No? That's what every SOE Users do. They use anything according to the situation (Freezing someone when he attempts shooting something on him, using a shield when Lloyd is threathened to die, use lightning to save Skylor from some goons, him using plenty of Elements when he's at a range). Same for Chen
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The user just have to point the weapon to the victim and then he can absorb his powers. (And no, he doesn't need to restrain his victim to do that)
Kai upscale from Jacob who can detect people without having to see them throught sound alone. That ability is also constanly active
He doesn't need to do that using Shadow
So? 4-C AP vs Low 5-B AP, what does the mountain size even change?
Hum...to evade her bone attacks?
Far higher AP, good ranged attack, Poison hax, Fire resistance negation, Power Stealing/Power Absorption resistance negation, Attack reflection, Dura Neg, Planetary ranged Mind hax/Telepathy/Preco,
Can you show her fear manip?
Kai is also bloodlusted in that form, he's going to go straight for the kill no matter what
I don't see it on her profile, nor the Ōtsutsuki's profile. And Fear hax is limited to Sasuke
Kai simply dodges?
What will Kaguya do against Kai spamming ranged EP attacks to prevent her from slipping away?
Alright, counted
I heavily doubt Kai is letting himself get hit by Black Recievers
They can both one shot each other throught some attacks, I don't think its stomp
We saw other SOE users like Chen basically doing the same thing as Kai: Use any element useful on the situation. Also, the staff constanly corrupting Kai and making him bloodlusted is gonna make it very hard for him to get fear haxed
Then he's cooked because he's not touching Kaguya without dying.
Not unique to the user but specifically caused by their genetic code. If he can't then it would be like trying to copy a tail whip without having a tail.
Okay so he needs to point his staff at Kaguya and it takes a while to absorb. Does it have any better range feats? Does it absorb all powers equally fast? Because otherwise Kaguya would take like 3 business days to absorb given her nigh infinite chakra lmao.
Yeah Kaguya completely hides her presence so she should be fine.
Shadow gets countered by the size of the ice being beyond his range.
Huh? I was clearly replying to the range of Kais shadow teleportation not to his AP.
I was asking in-universe when Kai actually fought.
Kaguya scales from Orochimaru same as Hagoromo. Kaguyas profile just hasn't been updated yet but this is accepted as a general Naruto hax
And we straight up see Sakura completely get paralyzed by this fear manipulation as well.
Being bloodlusted when he was in that form in-universe doesn't mean he will have the same state of mind in a vs match lmao. SBA make him non bloodlusted by nature.
Fear hax is a general Narutoverse hax for high tier characters. Kaguyas profile is just heavily outdated.
How if he can't even detect Kaguya? Or if he cant even move due to the gravity of the dimension?
Slip away? How is he going to stop her from opening portal behind her and dodge the attack towards it?
Kaguya doesn't only paralyze through black receivers. Just touching Naruto was enough to paralyze him.
Garmadon's powers are specifically due to his Oni genetics, and Amber was able to copy them
Nah it takes seconds, and the staff can absorp multiple people's power pretty fast.
That seem to only supress Aura, but not really sound
Smoke and Shadow were used to dodge blows, Kai should be able to do that asw
Isn't that kinda applicable only on weaker beings?
Will change that OP rule cuz it really limits the fight
Kai can prevent her from slipping into portals by shooting her consistanly
Teleportation. Both can pretty much sneak up on each other
Knowing Kai will spam Elements to prevent her from doing that
He could evade most physical attacks throught Intangibility. Kai power absorps her or hit her with a blast when she tries slipping away, which is feasable knowing the starting distance is 5m (Else Kaguya will just Deco him or paralyze him or BFR him). He also has speed amps
Ye no, Speed Element is a speedblitz lvl amp, and Spinjitzu will soon be upscaled to a 100x speed multiplier. I don't think we should discuss using those unless Kaguya's speed amp matches
WHAT
I think someone is already making a complete profile upgrade so doing so would just mess up their work. Either way it will take at least like 3 days to get a CRT accepted. I don't think it's really necessary anyway. The accepted justification is extremely and we even have an on-screen feat of Kaguya doing this. It's like seeing a dragon breath fire and not accepting it as an ability until a CRT is made.
Sounds good enough. But could you elaborate?
That looks like he still needs to point it at them, that it has a specific range, and that it isn't instant. Meaning Kaguya should be able to just walk through it for a while if necessary.
Naruto can sense far more than just aura. He can sense emotions and danger itself. So it should more so be her presence in general.
I'm asking if he ever needed to dodge in universe.
No? That would be social influencing. Why would it even be restricted to weaker beings when it was never shown or said to work like that?
By "limits the fight" do you just mean "doesn't let Kai stomp"? Because there's literally nothing wrong with the fight otherwise.
How does that prevent her from slipping into portals? She can spawn them literally anywhere, she would just spawn them in the direction she's dodging lol. That argument doesn't make any sense.
Except Kaguya has high level precognition and sensory abilities as well as the ability to hide her presence, and Kai doesn't.
And Kaguya will walk through them because she has Juubi invulnerability to elemental attacks meaning he will HAVE to attack her physically.
His intangibility turns him into ash. Ash is still affected by most of Kaguyas abilities so he wouldn't actually dodge.
Already addressed that.
So does Kaguya but she also has OP precognition on top of it.
Basically Kai can blind himself and fight without looking
It doesn't matter, it's enough that the light touches him
On what?
Kaguya can't move in that process
Aura sensing isn't the same as sensing throught sound itself and vibration
His base does it, I don't see why his SOE form won't
Sukuna per example has Fear Hax over people weaker then them. 7DS Demons do asw.
Bc SOE Kai is in-char bloodlusted, why should I limit it?
Can't he shoot while she enters a portal, and the blast would still follow her?
Kai has preco too throught Neuro's powers
Kai got Invulnerability Negation throught at least 5 of his elements
Is it high enough to blitz?
Karo never voted. U just argued it was stomp. I didn't see the other's votes
So it's a stomp?
Counted
Doesn't that take a hand sign + Requires her to stand still? Kai will just shoot lightning and one shot
For Madara, yes, but Kaguya just needs to look at the moon.
So she still needs time to like turn her head around. This MU is becoming a one shot to another
imo, going down that road will lead to Incon, cuz Kai blast her to death while also getting incap after she looks at the moon
picturing this in my head is really funny
I thought the speed was equalized, even if not, kaguya's combat speed is FTL+
It is, but with the distance, they hit each other easily
