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Are we gonna disguss about Nagoriyuki true form key?
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Guilty Gear Discussion
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I remember that the feat come from Happy Chaos arcade in strive
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I say we should
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Is that his boss mode form or the thing similar to Slayer where he apparently can ascend to a higher plane of existance.
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Ok, I found the piece of arcade dialoge Kenny was talking about. Vampires and similar entities lack IDs (just to catch everyone up to speed, the Backyard is Guilty Gear's higher dimension trope, and it acts a lot like a computer program), and thus kinda exist throughout infinite timelines, but not completely.
For the moment, this power isn't combat applicable, but it'll probably be important when ArcSys inevitably releases the next Another Story DLC. Bedman also gets this ability as well, but I'm not sure if this is meant for when he was alive or as he is in the first Another Story (a.k.a. just "Bed"). We should probably make a 2nd key for Bedman regardless.
For the moment, this power isn't combat applicable, but it'll probably be important when ArcSys inevitably releases the next Another Story DLC. Bedman also gets this ability as well, but I'm not sure if this is meant for when he was alive or as he is in the first Another Story (a.k.a. just "Bed"). We should probably make a 2nd key for Bedman regardless.
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When I think about it, I-no technically gets billions of layers above baseline low 1-C since she pulled a low 1-C power bestowal to every being on the planet and time stop neg everyone but axl is the only one to cancel it out. But GG is kinda chopped liver in the spectrum now.
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It's a shame, if only we have the old supporters or have better supporters for the verse on this site
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My problem with the low 1-C stuff is that it's oddly boring due to both the nature of VSB's principles and the nature of fighting games as a whole. Most characters stronger than 2-A are a real pain to work with due to the layered AP thing alongside having massive walls of text that aren't actually that intersting to look through. Meanwhile, fighting games place most of their emphasis on direct, physical combat in both mechanics and storytelling , which I usually find more interesting.
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It really do be like that sometimes, and arch system work related verses take that the hardest.
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I can understand, cosmology for fighting games (or even anime games in general) can be pretty iffy to work around with depending on the context and evidence behind it
That's why even I question DMC being at "1-C" or even FF7 at "2-A" whenever I look at them
BlazBlue I can get, Guilty Gear, likely in the same placement with BB unless there is evidence that'll say the opposite, but you can also say the same with BB's cosmology as well if we want to be fair in comparison between BB and GG
But I think BB and GG's cosmology placement is fine, heck I can probably assume both could be higher if there is more context to lean on. But for now, we'll have to wait for more evidence
That's why even I question DMC being at "1-C" or even FF7 at "2-A" whenever I look at them
BlazBlue I can get, Guilty Gear, likely in the same placement with BB unless there is evidence that'll say the opposite, but you can also say the same with BB's cosmology as well if we want to be fair in comparison between BB and GG
But I think BB and GG's cosmology placement is fine, heck I can probably assume both could be higher if there is more context to lean on. But for now, we'll have to wait for more evidence
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Do we have slayer instant kill calculation?
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I think it was in the old calc threads, they were something around solar system level or something
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The tier 2 to 1 spectrum definitely has a lot less nuance to where honestly you'd have to equalize AP, speed, and hax especially since a few people found out what layers are and went goofy with them in both AP and hax.
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I'm pretty sure it's lost in the ether of naruto forms but all that I can remember from it was being a lumosity calc.
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How do you calc luminosity if you can't even tell how far the light source (presumably the opponent flying through space) is in the first place?
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They were definitely using the old pre-xrd IK and using galaxy ranged distances for it.
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Ohh, the XX version. I was thinking about the Xrd version.
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I've seen the big change to information Manipulation, GG should get type 2 pretty easy.
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Guys, this is important.
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Stuff that got lost in context but never got picked up in any crt: that backyard scailing was meant to go up to 6D since underworld was meant to transcend the concept of the 4D timespace of regular universe while the backyard would be a higher order realm over the underworld hill that has a innaccesable difference.
I-no was supposed to abstract existence since looking at Xrd humanity's concept for a better tomorrow pretty much tried possessing the backyard and the backyard sealing this concept away but unfortunately also giving it fundamental authority in the process.
I-no was supposed to abstract existence since looking at Xrd humanity's concept for a better tomorrow pretty much tried possessing the backyard and the backyard sealing this concept away but unfortunately also giving it fundamental authority in the process.
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Sounds like we need to do some more GG revisions. Because I just thought to myself that Sol should have Vehicular Mastery because of his motorcycle
Plus many other abilities I'm sure that needs to be looked up at
And don't get me started on re-working on the scaling because I rather have the old scaling for the characters than what we have right now
Plus many other abilities I'm sure that needs to be looked up at
And don't get me started on re-working on the scaling because I rather have the old scaling for the characters than what we have right now
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The scaling issue is because Justice did the large planet level feat while empowered in armor, right? Because it's still in the tier even when removing the 40x multiplier.
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Pretty much. But honestly, I think the low-end makes no sense, because if Justice's Gamma Ray is a literal Gamma Ray, it should be indefinitely 4-B since that's what I come across the scaling for GR's. If not, High 4-C would be fine as well
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I would if it was actually Leopaldon and not just it's lifeless husk piloted by bandits... ok if it was piloted by just the dog, it can stay
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I don't think he has any feats besides being a hard af boss with jank magic attacks
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I remember Bridget instant kill throw her opponent to the moon
What tier would that be?
What tier would that be?
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Honestly I don't know, has anyone made that calc for him?
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