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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 Stuff
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IT is when the growth is nearly instantaneous and provoked by your own power.
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@Natse Imagine controlling a bunch of humans, who are millions of kilometers away from each other.
That's the kind of thing Ego would do on a larger scale.
That's the kind of thing Ego would do on a larger scale.
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@Gwyn
No, it's not.
Ego needed a power doubling to be capable of causing sprouts to quickly grow all cross planets over the entire universe and quickly encompassing them, thus transferring them to his body. When he was done all of said planets would belong to his body, and in that case combined GBEs would be a definitely acceptable way of scaling.
No, it's not.
Ego needed a power doubling to be capable of causing sprouts to quickly grow all cross planets over the entire universe and quickly encompassing them, thus transferring them to his body. When he was done all of said planets would belong to his body, and in that case combined GBEs would be a definitely acceptable way of scaling.
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There's really only one thing I semi disagree with, as pointed out earlier.
"Managed to open a tiny wound on him after constant firing"
They didn't make that wound, that was a scar, but I don't think that discredits the feat itself.
"Managed to open a tiny wound on him after constant firing"
They didn't make that wound, that was a scar, but I don't think that discredits the feat itself.
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They use both thousands and millions on different points if I reccall.
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I have the scene here, hold up.Natse said:
EDIT: I guarantee my match is off, but I counted 15 planets, provided I made sure not to recount once the seen rotated.
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Bump.
When will the changes be added?
When will the changes be added?
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I also rewatched the scene where Ego eliminates the Sovereign fleet and he did it with like three large energy blasts. Maybe an 8-A for Ego's avatar is warranted but it's gonna need a better look.
As for the Expansion feat, Ego shows off that the seeds he has planted grow really deep into the planet implying that he really is using the planet's energy itself to help fuel his seeds. Using the GBE of Jupiter and a planet count of 5000, 1.0 x 10^40 J of energy is exerted for the Expansion, making it at least Dwarf Star level+. I'd say that's a reasonable lowball.
As for the Expansion feat, Ego shows off that the seeds he has planted grow really deep into the planet implying that he really is using the planet's energy itself to help fuel his seeds. Using the GBE of Jupiter and a planet count of 5000, 1.0 x 10^40 J of energy is exerted for the Expansion, making it at least Dwarf Star level+. I'd say that's a reasonable lowball.
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Has Ego vaporizing the Sovereign fleet been calced, yet?
Also, I noticed this when rewatching the film, but shouldn't Star-Lord connected to Ego's powers be significantly above Ego's avatar? The fight between the two seems to be established as Peter vs Ego, not Peter vs Ego's avatar. As we see when Peter first shoots up the avatar, or when the avatar is crushed with Yondu's ship, bodily harm or even complete destruction has no effect on Ego's true self, as the avatar is just a tiny manifestation. However, when Peter starts wailing on Ego, who at this point was using his planetary form itself alongside his human avatar, it clearly damages the real entity, and everything it's doing, be it trying to ground Yondu's ship on the surface or crush Nebula and Gamora below the core, is halted as it basically recoils in pain.
On top of that, Ego only using the power of its avatar against Peter wouldn't make sense, since draining him was its entire goal, and the two fought directly next to Ego's core/power source.
Also, I noticed this when rewatching the film, but shouldn't Star-Lord connected to Ego's powers be significantly above Ego's avatar? The fight between the two seems to be established as Peter vs Ego, not Peter vs Ego's avatar. As we see when Peter first shoots up the avatar, or when the avatar is crushed with Yondu's ship, bodily harm or even complete destruction has no effect on Ego's true self, as the avatar is just a tiny manifestation. However, when Peter starts wailing on Ego, who at this point was using his planetary form itself alongside his human avatar, it clearly damages the real entity, and everything it's doing, be it trying to ground Yondu's ship on the surface or crush Nebula and Gamora below the core, is halted as it basically recoils in pain.
On top of that, Ego only using the power of its avatar against Peter wouldn't make sense, since draining him was its entire goal, and the two fought directly next to Ego's core/power source.
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I'm pretty much more convinced at this point that there's little power difference between Avatar and Full-Body, since Peter didn't need a Planet-sized body to be equal to Ego.
I'm pretty much more convinced at this point that there's little power difference between Avatar and Full-Body, since Peter didn't need a Planet-sized body to be equal to Ego.
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That is probable, though perhaps it would only apply when the avatar is close enough to the power source? He did mention having to return to the planet to regenerate his avatar's form, so it's likely that at that proximity, he could also just channel his full power through his manifestation, as well.
That is probable, though perhaps it would only apply when the avatar is close enough to the power source? He did mention having to return to the planet to regenerate his avatar's form, so it's likely that at that proximity, he could also just channel his full power through his manifestation, as well.
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That seems possible. I also think am unsure if Ego should just be 5-C or 5-A since his full power *2 could channel the destruction of thousands of planets and absorb them.
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I do not think that the feat has been calculated, no.
Well, from what I remember of the movie, the explicit combat feats from both Star-Lord and Ego as they were fighting were rather low-level in quality.
Well, from what I remember of the movie, the explicit combat feats from both Star-Lord and Ego as they were fighting were rather low-level in quality.
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Range =/= APAntvasima said:
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He needed twice his power, he even explains it to Peter.LordXcano said:
"There's one problem: A Celestial does not have enough power to do such a feat... But two Celestials..."
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Because two planets fighting each other wouldn't have the same level of emotional impact or option for fight choreography. Though we still see the fight is actually affecting Ego itself, otherwise nothing would have actually stopped it from killing all of Star-Lord's friends.
Because two planets fighting each other wouldn't have the same level of emotional impact or option for fight choreography. Though we still see the fight is actually affecting Ego itself, otherwise nothing would have actually stopped it from killing all of Star-Lord's friends.
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So scrap Avatar Key and rank both Quill and Ego at 5-C, but note on Ego's profile that his Mortal Body grows weaker when away from his core for prolonged periods of time?
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I don't really see a problem with that, if others are alright with it.
I don't really see a problem with that, if others are alright with it.
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Terraforming (or more likely Egoforming) a planet to become part of Ego's mind has absolutely no relationship to the GBE of the planet.
@Azzy Peter was fighting an avatar, Ego's true self is his brain.Ego's actions probably stopped because he lost concentration when Peter attacked him.
I will be rewatching the movie to see if there is indeed a scene where Ego manipulates the entire planet and calc the fleet destruction feat.
@Azzy Peter was fighting an avatar, Ego's true self is his brain.Ego's actions probably stopped because he lost concentration when Peter attacked him.
I will be rewatching the movie to see if there is indeed a scene where Ego manipulates the entire planet and calc the fleet destruction feat.
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Ego can manipulate the entire planet. He puts his face on it.Gwynbleiddd said:
And yes, channeling the sprouts to spotanteously grow and swallow the planets has to do with AP. Ego specifically notes that he needs power to do it.
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power=/= GBE of the planet
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GBE of the planet is the most practical thing to scale to, since the sprouts would literally cover the entire surface of the planet and then assimilate them into Ego's consciousness expanding his body.Gwynbleiddd said:
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About the Expansion thing:
We don't know the density of Ego's bio(?)mass, but given how easily it crushed everything it moved by I'd say giving it a ridiculously low density of, say, 0.1 g/cm^3 or the density of aerogel shouldn't be too problematic. From there you could get the KE of the Expansion from the scenes where we see it spreading across large areas and then divide it by 2 to get Ego's power.
We don't know the density of Ego's bio(?)mass, but given how easily it crushed everything it moved by I'd say giving it a ridiculously low density of, say, 0.1 g/cm^3 or the density of aerogel shouldn't be too problematic. From there you could get the KE of the Expansion from the scenes where we see it spreading across large areas and then divide it by 2 to get Ego's power.
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Might as well just place them at Moon level, them.
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I do think there should be 2 keys for Ego since his avatar got demolished by Peter's guns, though he did regenerate, but he fared much better against Peter's celestial power.
So unless space guns > celestial power, ego did have to relay on all his power to fight Peter.
Also im ok with rating Peter 5-C.
So unless space guns > celestial power, ego did have to relay on all his power to fight Peter.
Also im ok with rating Peter 5-C.
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