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Guardian tale reviews

if it was the knight who canonically faced hekate in combat, the fact that you can play with another character as the protagonist is not canonical to the story.

(I say this because guardian tale plays a lot with this, since some mechanics that seem in-game are in fact something canon in the story.)
 
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well I think it's a good time to revive this and basically the 14th world is coming and maybe they can give us new exploits, but for now it will be good to get this over with-.
 
oh well then everything above world 9 and that has interacted with the knight should be supersonic while those comparable to neva or gyigas could be subsonic, now it's just a matter of Marina and verifying if the guardian's lightning can be comparable to real lightning.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
I'M BACK

here!
The feat at 8:11 is quite inconsequential, Knight barely moves, and the bullet is quite far, so I will not be calculating it!

The result makes sense, as Knight isn't faster than the bullet, so the sniper remains as a threat!

Sorry, I kinda forgot this thread was here-
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oh that's ok, I had decided to give this thread a rest at the time as well lol
 
Some requirements to qualify as real lightning. (Not everything is required)
  • Being cloud-to-ground lightning.
  • Having an electromagnetic field
  • Being generated by something or someone capable of controlling real electricity
  • Scaling comparable to 0.38 tons (REQUIRED)
  • Flowing through conducting materials
  • Making the muscles of the affected contract.
If you have at least some of the requirements, then it's all good. 0.38 tons scaling is a must, though. (either hurting, or being generated by someone that scales to that is enough)
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Marina joins the Supersonic group!

Ha, now the lightning, right? Oh, we might be getting into outlier territory.
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oh the lightning things possibly only suits the attack speed, and for the world 13 superior things, since the guardian is definitely this by far above its lower stages. (and besides, with what they said there would be webcomic and visual novels we might have an idea of who adapts to who).
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Some requirements to qualify as real lightning. (Not everything is required)
  • Being cloud-to-ground lightning.
  • Having an electromagnetic field
  • Being generated by something or someone capable of controlling real electricity
  • Scaling comparable to 0.38 tons (REQUIRED)
  • Flowing through conducting materials
  • Making the muscles of the affected contract.
If you have at least some of the requirements, then it's all good. 0.38 tons scaling is a must, though. (either hurting, or being generated by someone that scales to that is enough)
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well.

we know that both libera and the false guardian can manipulate eletricity (in fact they can summon both lightning without the need of libera).

libera's lightning bolts come from clouds created by libera herself, while the lightning bolts leave burn marks on the ground (I remember there is a video where the lightning bolts basically leave a burn mark upon impact).

and finally we know from fake knight that her lightning bolts could easily wipe out invaders.

we have as a description of libera that mentions this that he can hit with lightning.
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
well.

we know that both libera and the false guardian can manipulate eletricity (in fact they can summon both lightning without the need of libera).

libera's lightning bolts come from clouds created by libera herself, while the lightning bolts leave burn marks on the ground (I remember there is a video where the lightning bolts basically leave a burn mark upon impact).

and finally we know from fake knight that her lightning bolts could easily wipe out invaders.

we have as a description of libera that mentions this that he can hit with lightning.
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Well, then it's MHS+.
 
well in that case i think only through lightning attack should be mhs+ only with libera, while his key from world 13 up should definitely be mhs+ completely, same for fake knight, of course only the godtier like the savior should have a possible scale of this and people who fight with the guardian above world 13.
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
well in that case i think only through lightning attack should be mhs+ only with libera, while his key from world 13 up should definitely be mhs+ completely, same for fake knight, of course only the godtier like the savior should have a possible scale of this and people who fight with the guardian above world 13.
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Why would they scale to the speed of lightning completely?
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
basically because knight can dodge him multiple times in his fight against fake knight, but as I said this would only go to world 13 and whoever has proven to be powerful enough to fight fake knight.
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Dodging lightning doesn't mean you scale to it's speed, as proven with the bullet feats.
Dodging cloud-to-ground lightning sometimes isn't even high hypersonic, much less massively hypersonic+.
We'd need to calc it.
 
oh by the way I forgot a little bit that this is how things are done here lol my bad....

anyway here you have the fight with the fake knight



I would say that I might have to watch the whole fight in case there is something to calculate.

5:00 to the minute 9:38 is the whole fight.
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
oh by the way I forgot a little bit that this is how things are done here lol my bad....
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It's fine though, lmao.
It might give MHS+ reactions if it's consistent.

It's like dodging a 200km/h motorcycle, you don't need to be 200km/h yourself to do that, right?
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
anyway here you have the fight with the fake knight



I would say that I might have to watch the whole fight in case there is something to calculate.

5:00 to the minute 9:38 is the whole fight.
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Watched.

Knight doesn't scale to it at all. What they are doing this entire fight is called Aim Dodging, which basically consists of leaving the trajectory of something before said thing start moving.
Like getting out of a bullet trajectory before the guy pulls the trigger.

At 7:54, however, Knight seemed to block the shockwave before the lightning hit the ground, might be worth calc'ing.
 
let me check the world again, but I remember that it can easily hit normal people, so it should still be above average, but I'd rather check than anything else.
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
well yes, the bullets are fast enough to overcome the reaction of the average person, but beyond that there are no statements that put this weapon at the level of reaction that the heroes have.
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Well, I am using the 0.013s timeframe then.
Expect a Mach 10 result, and start doing the scaling now, I will post the calc tomorrow.
 
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