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Guardian of the Master Emerald vs. The Protector of the Universe (COMPLETE; 0-8-0)

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I'd vote for Marvell. Fights in Sonic games tend to be fairly basic, so the skill to develop tactics around people with wildly different tactics and powersets isn't really a thing they have. Mar-vell on the other hand (presumably) fought a variety of different guys in his career and garnered a lot of versatile experience from there.
 
Voting Mar-Vell

More intelligent and skilled than this version of Knux, better Lifting Strength (Class T vs 10), and slightly better versatility (without Power-ups all this Knux can do is punch).
 
Fights in Sonic games are not basic what? Sonic characters can fight the most varied cast of people through the years, and games like Battle and Fighters debunk they fighting "simply", even if the other might be more skilled
 
Should I give back Knuckles his power ups to make this fairer or it's fair as is? :v
 
Theuser789 said:
Fights in Sonic games are not basic what? Sonic characters can fight the most varied cast of people through the years, and games like Battle and Fighters debunk they fighting "simply", even if the other might be more skilled
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Can you provide a clip example of the fight complexity :v
 
I would not bring up sonic battle and sonic fighters if you're trying to say their fights aren't basic cause uh

they definitely are, especially in that game
 
I was going to say that I feel like Knuckles should win, but when I looked at the profile, I noticed most of his powers on the classic tab comes from his power ups. Without 'em, I mean... He does seem actually the one that can pull more different moves compared to Mar Vell, but aside from that, he has barely anything to providde an advantage over what Mar Vell does.

Notice that Mar Vell does not even have that big of an advantage, which is why I think Knucks with his power-ups can solidly win, but with the stuff like analytical prediction that would allow close-range dominance and some other skills displayed on the profile, plus a very likely LS advantage, yeah, I can't see our boy Knuckles doing much...

Also, I heavily disagree with the "basic" stuff said here. I can agree that their hand-to-hand and melee tactics aren't very high-level, but their battlefield tactics are pretty good.
 
Meh, the reason why I'm not doing power-ups is because Captain Marvel would feel more pressured to use his ""Self-Destruction"" which basically just means "I survive somewhat but you don't"

And I think that's BS on both ends, if Mar-Vell isn't being considerably overpowered he wouldn't use it
 
The_Impress said:
Meh, the reason why I'm not doing power-ups is because Captain Marvel would feel more pressured to use his ""Self-Destruction"" which basically just means "I survive somewhat but you don't"

And I think that's BS on both ends, if Mar-Vell isn't being considerably overpowered he wouldn't use it
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Oh, no worries, that's understanble.

it's mar vell's fault for not fighting like a HONOURED WARRIOR
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
I would not bring up sonic battle and sonic fighters if you're trying to say their fights aren't basic cause uh
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Getting how basic or complicated their fights are from a pure gameplay standpoint isn't it, chief. Not when Emerl is stated to have the collective experience of 4000 years of straight combat alongside the copied experiences and skillsets from every member of the cast.

Regardless, this is Classic Knuckles. So Mar-Vell FRA.
 
Theuser789 said:
Almost... every game? They fight multiple different machines and foes through their entire history, Knuckles is consistently stated to be a martial artist master as well
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Provide an example of martial arts mastery :v

Like, being a "Martials Arts Master" is impressive in contrast to statementless people, but you should show the example of the most impressive combat feat when both characters have statements + feats, otherwise you're not properly illustrating your point.

TL;DR both hab shit, prove who hab better shit, via scan
 
But I am not arguing that Classic Knuckles is more skilled? I agree that the marvel dude is more skilled and wins this, I am arguing against the claim that "Sonic fights are basic", because they aren't, and people in this thread showed examples of it
 
Links of what? Every boss fight and every single different enemy Sonic has fought?

Like, it's literally on his goddamm page, right at the inteligence section, paragraphs with various links, the same to Knuckles, just not as explained
 
Theuser789 said:
Links of what? Every boss fight and every single different enemy Sonic has fought?
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Are you purposely forgetting every other conversation we have before to play dumb? I am asking for basic examples, I don't see what's tough to comprehend here, dude.
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Like, it's literally on his goddamm page, right at the inteligence section, paragraphs with various links, the same to Knuckles, just not as explained
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You mean the single scan on Knuckles' section claiming he's a "martial artist" and providing no scan further? And the complete lack of scans on Sonic's section?
 
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