Groudon vs. Toneri

[SuperKamiNappa]

Base form Groudon
Speed equalized since Groudon's speed is unkown.

who wins and why?

 

[SwordSlayer99]

Groudon is Moon level (74.04 Exatons) while Toneri is Multi-Continent level (8.75 Exatons).

Groudon stomps. He is over 8 times more powerful than Toneri.

 

[Gemmysaur]

I don't see how Groudon can counter Gudodama and flight.

Can anyone enlighten me on that?

 

[Legion350]

Groudon is Moon level (74.04 Exatons) while Toneri is Multi-Continent level (8.75 Exatons).

Groudon stomps. He is over 8 times more powerful than Toneri.

Isn't Groudon only multiple continent level in base form?

 

[Gemmysaur]

Multi-continental is the mooncutter iirc.

 

[SwordSlayer99]

Isn't only multiple continent level in base form?

No.

The calc that we use to scale Groudon is right here http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/pokemon-omega-ruby-eat-your-heart-out-reshiram.24970/ and it calcs normal / base Groudon's beam to be 74 Exatons. Here is the video where the feat happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1d6ZoaN-M&t=24m51s.

 

[Legion350]

^ So does Groudon's profile have to be changed?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Nevermind, that's correct. The OBD decided to scale it to Primal Groudon though. "It definitely scales to Primal Groudon, what destroyed the mini sun was the natural energy Groudon had previously absorbed."

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

Toneri due to flight and hax (TSB spam)

Groudon n Kyogre are barely even mobile in fights

 

[Legion350]

Toneri wins because he has way better hax.

 

[Volundox]

I'll vote Groundon for the versatility afforded to him by his moveset, and the fact which Naruto who was in his Multi-continental form was able to overpower the mooncutter.

 

[Aparajita]

I'll vote for Groundon because of versatility.

 

[Superkryptonian]

I'll go with groudon since he has a wide range of elements to use.

 

[LTB2000]

Groudon for reasons above.