Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Julius Novachrono

[Sonicflare9]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gremmy_Thoumeaux

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Julius_Novachrono

low 6-B versions

speed equalized

whoooooooooooooooooo would win

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Bump.

 

[Naeblis495]

gremmy think

julius ressurect (?)

gremmy think again .

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

If Julius can resurrect. Then he has a bunch of hax to give Gremmy a fat L.

 

[Damage3245]

What's stopping Gremmy from giving him the cookie treatment?

 

[Naeblis495]

that can activate faster than gremmy can think ?

according to his profile, all of his big stuff seems to need multiples actions , are projectiles based or need time to activate .

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Everyone says he leads with death hax though. On literally every Grenmy thread.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Also obviously not. I meant if Gremmy oneshots with Death Hax and calls it a day he could resurrect and use time stop or something.

 

[Naeblis495]

that is one of is opening action yes .

he can open with other stuff tho like transforming all the target's bones into cookie or making the opponent explode in bloody bits .

he will use far more diverse and less effective ways of fighting if he is hyped up by the opponent .

 

[Naeblis495]

Also obviously not. I meant if Gremmy oneshots with Death Hax and calls it a day he could resurrect and use time stop or something.

how long does the ressurection take ?

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

No idea tbh.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Few days/weeks iirc.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Non-combat applicable. Rip Julius.

 

[Naeblis495]

so it's not combat applicable ?

well then , gremmy think.

 

[Duedate8898]

Only reason I'm bumping this is to say that Julius resurrection actually only takes a day at most since he seemed to have died around the late day though it could've been earlier, and was resurrected the next morning.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Only reason I'm bumping this is to say that Julius resurrection actually only takes a day at most since he seemed to have died around the late day though it could've been earlier, and was resurrected the next morning.

Then he loses as the time limit for a fight is 1 day

 

[Duedate8898]

That's only working under the idea that it takes an entire day, it's more likely to be less than one.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

If he took 1 day then by default is 1 day we can assume he could do it sooner but if there is no prof for that then 1 day.

 

[Duedate8898]

He didn't take one day for sure, as I said, it looked like he died in the afternoon and he was back by next morning. Hence, the one day at most.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

then for the sake of it 1 day

 

[Epsilon_R]

Then that's half a day, not one

 

[Mephistofelicia]

Even if the resurrection was instant, Julius returns far weaker than before, and suffers the same fate. Also, him stopping people in time didn't actually make their time stop, it just made them immobile. They could still think, and that's all Gremmy needs. Also, the resurrection isn't even his own magic, but the power of a magic tool, which he wasn't given for this fight.

Julius takes the L.

 

[Naeblis495]

Even if the resurrection was instant, Julius returns far weaker than before, and suffers the same fate. Also, him stopping people in time didn't actually make their time stop, it just made them immobile. They could still think, and that's all Gremmy needs. Also, the resurrection isn't even his own magic, but the power of a magic tool, which he wasn't given for this fight.
Julius takes the L.

For real ? Then yeah , Julius have no chance to win at all .

 

[Mephistofelicia]

Yeah, he confirmed he was weaker than before.

 

[Duedate8898]

First of all, Julius' resurrection isn't a magic tool. Whatever it is, we don't really know all that appears to be true is that it's related to the rune over his brow. Secondly, Julius' first move in combat is too either anhilate his opponent in time or super age them. Stopping them is when he's not bloodlusted. Thirdly, Julius does mention he's weaker but that most likely has to do with all the time he's lost meaning that his mana reserves and stored up time are lower, whether this affect his spells is unknown.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

This is not blood usted so his first move is to stop gremmy

 

[Duedate8898]

Julius starts off bloodlusted in character, our first showing of him has him start the fight by killing two people with his time anhilation spell. He would then restrain the rest of the enemy group, but also try to kill their leader as soon as said leader appeared. So he's not going for freeze Gremmy first.

 

[Muuuuh]

Julius is faster, even at equal speed thanks to the acceleration of time, any damage that gremmy does to him, such as turning his bones into biscuits, can regress by returning his body time. And Julius has no qualms about killing who he considers an enemy of the kingdom.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Gremmy's first move is death hax via thinking

 

[Muuuuh]

Gremmy's first move is death hax via thinking

What Julius could reverse before Gremmy used it, thanks to his precognition and vision of the future.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I dont see how that would help as the only thing he would see is himself faling over dead because gremmy does not shoot a beam of death or stuff like that he just simply think you dead and you fall dead

 

[Muuuuh]

I dont see how that would help as the only thing he would see is himself faling over dead because gremmy does not shoot a beam of death or stuff like that he just simply think you dead and you fall dead

And Julius finds himself dying with the foresight of the future, reverses Gremmy even before he thinks about using that hax and kills Gremmy by turning him into powder.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I dont see how that would help as the only thing he would see is himself faling over dead because gremmy does not shoot a beam of death or stuff like that he just simply think you dead and you fall dead

And Julius finds himself dying with the foresight of the future, reverses Gremmy even before he thinks about using that hax and kills Gremmy by turning him into powder.

He needs to process the vision of the future, which by the time he does Gremmy already thought him dead

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

If that were his first move it would not be enought still as he: 1. need to activate the precog

2. see the future and then plan a counter attack

3. attack

While gremmy just needs:

1. Think him dead

 

[Muuuuh]

Wait Gremmy ever used that on a character other than fodder?

because even for simple things like opening portals he needs to create clones.


also, you are fooling yourself in the battle timeline would be like this:

- Julius sees that he will die in the future

- Julius kills Gremmy before he thinks

or

- Julius sees he's going to die

- Julius returns the time to be able to do what he wants

- here in theory Gremmy would think of Julius dead but he can't because he's already died.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Wait Gremmy ever used that on a character other than fodder?
because even for simple things like opening portals he needs to create clones.


also, you are fooling yourself in the battle timeline would be like this:

- Julius sees that he will die in the future

- Julius kills Gremmy before he thinks

or

- Julius sees he's going to die

- Julius returns the time to be able to do what he wants

- here in theory Gremmy would think of Julius dead but he can't because he's already died.

Is his first move in character so yes


Unless julius is faster than thinking no and that see the future and take an action still requiers at least 2 steps while gremmy takes only 1 not to mention that to kill gremmy is not that simple as gremmy need to just "think death away" and he will not die.

 

[Muuuuh]

You are confusing prediction of the future, which is knowing something before it happens with reading thoughts that occur simultaneously.

And no, it's not Gremmy's standard to use that, he didn't use it with any of the main characters in the series.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

You are confusing prediction of the future, which is knowing something before it happens with reading thoughts that occur simultaneously.
And no, it's not Gremmy's standard to use that, he didn't use it with any of the main characters in the series.

First time he appears he makes the V explode then thinks 2 captains death and they die then makes bones into cookies

 

[Muuuuh]

Think that bones are cookies doesn't kill anyone instantly, Julius could reverse that without a problem, and Gremmy didn't kill any captain, I think they were Sub-captain and it was off screen

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Think that bones are cookies doesn't kill anyone instantly, Julius could reverse that without a problem, and Gremmy didn't kill any captain, I think they were Sub-captain and it was off scree

No, it was captains both Muguruma Kensei and Ōtoribashi Rōjürō and it was ON screen the one he turn into cookies was Kusajishi Yachiru because she was annoying him so yes he does goes for the kill straight away so my point still stands and the rest of the others above "gremmy thinks"