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Gravity Falls General Discussion Thread

RedReaper616 said:
Under what basis-Also, woulllldn't the 12-D of String Theory be bumbkis now? The String Cheese of Dennis brother are the higher dimensions in question, which come from the "1-A Realm" Bill can't affect. (Ignoring how he shook the whole card carrier...)
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13-D comes from the Nightmare Realm having 2 levels of infinity compared to the Multiverse:
  1. 1 higher spatial dimension off it being a brane world
  2. 1 higher temporal dimension of it being a hypertimeline.
Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
There is no other 13-D characters on vsbw?
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1-B is like the most unusable tier here. So prolly not.
 
I'll make clear that everything that I do not reply to is either already added in my sandbox, or I agree with it. I'll only reply to stuff I disagree with.
RedReaper616 said:
Regeneration

The Book of Bill (and thus Bill) can come back from molecular destabilization, (this scan also doubles down on the book being made of brain matter).

Regenerated from lasting damage caused by the Memory Gun after exiting McGucket's head.

So Bill should have Limited Mid-Godly.
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Bill having the same resistances as the Book was rejected, as nothing proves that they've literally the same attributes.

Plus "limited Mid-Godly" doesn't exist. It's like saying that regenerating from having half of you body obliterated is "limited Low-Godly", which just isn't a thing. It was agreed not too long ago that regenerating damage that isn't complete obliteration of non-physical stuff isn't anything, and we'd list that as just Regeneration with no type, as we can't quantify it like other kinds of regeneration that instead are all physical.
RedReaper616 said:
Omnscience/Omni-Sight and Intelligence (as well as Multilinguism)

Was aware of Stanford's meddlings with the Book of Bill despite being dead and trapped within the Theraprism,

Is aware of Mabel's communication in the Astral Plane with The Beast, (as well as used her dreams to find her weakness).

Ford doubles down on Bill's ability to see the future, (and implies Bill can offer to teach you how to "speak tree" as well as how to make nukes of of rubber ducklings, {which Bill also claims to know}),

Was able to scan all possible future timelines to see his defeat and astrally project a message across the globe,
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Almost all of this falls under Cosmic Awareness/Clairvoyance already to be fair. Not only that but other concerns are:
  • He may have known about Mabel's stuff through just exploring her dreams (as in-verse going in the Mindscape allows to see both dreams and memories).
  • Ford's scan isn't exactly hard evidence to be fair. He's just making random guesses basing on his experience with Bill, rather than actually listing stuff Bill knows.
RedReaper616 said:
Instinctive Reaction?

Can conquer dynasties whilst dissociated (meaning some form of instinctive reaction?)
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This sounds like super damn weird, as Instinctive Action (dunno why is the power called like that now lol) is not this, it's just basically having your body guided for pure instinct, avoiding it being slowed from any thought process. It's just too vague to be anything imo, as it could be just Bill blacking out for some reason and then realizing he did that.
RedReaper616 said:
Social Influencing

Bill has seduced Galaxies,
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Hard no. How do you even "seduce a galaxy" lmfao.
RedReaper616 said:
Hypnosis, Tech and Intelligence

Made a computer with trinary code capable of mass hypnosis, and floppy drives capable of eating fingers, as well as causing suicide to programmers who worked on it.
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This should also be another evidence for EG intelligence, by the way.
RedReaper616 said:
Power Bestowal???

After Martha took in toxic fumes that causes people to hallucinate (allowing her to see Bill), her experience with him (we don't know what outside of seeing the toy designs he made) gave her the ability to speak in tongues, leak black fluid from their eyes, and make nearby cats float when asked their origin.
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This might be just a side effect for Bill's possession. Not too convinced here.
RedReaper616 said:
Hallucination Inducement

Can induce hallucinations (that seemingly stop time, ala his Summoning by Gideon), to communicate with his "puppets".
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This is already under Perception Manipulation, hallucination not really, as it's not like Ford was seeing things in the real world.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Hard no. How do you even "seduce a galaxy" lmfao.
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Wait what? Its possibly it was a living Galaxy. Bill canonically dated a damn void.

Should we list that he has "10D Charisma" on his SI lol
StrymULTRA said:
This sounds like super damn weird, as Instinctive Action (dunno why is the power called like that now lol) is not this, it's just basically having your body guided for pure instinct, avoiding it being slowed from any thought process.
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Doing stuff while sleeping/blacked out/knocked out also work for this ability but it is kinda vague true
 
ShionAH said:
Wait what? Its possibly it was a living Galaxy. Bill canonically dated a damn void.
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You have to prove that the Galaxy was living. While living planetoids do indeed exist in GF, you'd have to prove it's the same for that galaxy.

Not to mention that the process of doing so is also super vague in itself, as even if it's true, then we don't know details like the personality and other factors.

Aka is too vague and relies on too many assumptions.
 
 
StrymULTRA said:
You have to prove that the Galaxy was living. While living planetoids do indeed exist in GF, you'd have to prove it's the same for that galaxy.

Not to mention that the process of doing so is also super vague in itself, as even if it's true, then we don't know details like the personality and other factors.

Aka is too vague and relies on too many assumptions.
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I mean I dont even think its actually anything big, its just Bill doing something extremely weird. Plus charming people is SI whether or not its "crazy impressive" or "naive guy is tricked"

Lets see what other supporters think
StrymULTRA said:
Forgot to reply here:
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Perfect
 
ShionAH said:
Maybe it was charmed by Bill's sexy hypotenuse? Or maybe Bill's sharp angles made it leak star dust...
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ShionAH said:
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For anyone wondering, the image comes from a series of pics from the Website, which you can obtain through typing "STOD EHT TCENNOC".

It's a pretty interesting story on how Bill literally created a cult and converted an entire city to his religion, a REALLY good evidence for his Social Influencing, and also has some nice hax in-between (yes 1st pic comes from B&N edition, as it's connected).

 
StrymULTRA said:
I'll make clear that everything that I do not reply to is either already added in my sandbox, or I agree with it. I'll only reply to stuff I disagree with.

Bill having the same resistances as the Book was rejected, as nothing proves that they've literally the same attributes.
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The book and it's powers are what he directly projects into them, because he's taking advantage of his ability to "project himself into anything with Neurons" to allow the Book to do what the Book does. Any features of the Book is just his that he's given it.
StrymULTRA said:
Plus "limited Mid-Godly" doesn't exist. It's like saying that regenerating from having half of you body obliterated is "limited Low-Godly", which just isn't a thing. It was agreed not too long ago that regenerating damage that isn't complete obliteration of non-physical stuff isn't anything, and we'd list that as just Regeneration with no type, as we can't quantify it like other kinds of regeneration that instead are all physical.
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That seems like nonsense to me. If you can regenerate part of your soul, but not all of it, then you would have limited soul regeneration but can still be spiritually erased. Which makes total sense. But if that's wiki standards, fair enough.
StrymULTRA said:
Almost all of this falls under Cosmic Awareness/Clairvoyance already to be fair. Not only that but other concerns are:
  • He may have known about Mabel's stuff through just exploring her dreams (as in-verse going in the Mindscape allows to see both dreams and memories).
  • Ford's scan isn't exactly hard evidence to be fair. He's just making random guesses basing on his experience with Bill, rather than actually listing stuff Bill knows.
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Fair, but I was mostly saying we could add more justifications. Also, given Bill has a location in the Astral Plane for himself already where he stores Souls, it's equally likely he just saw through his peepholes there. Potentially a "possibly?"
StrymULTRA said:
This sounds like super damn weird, as Instinctive Action (dunno why is the power called like that now lol) is not this, it's just basically having your body guided for pure instinct, avoiding it being slowed from any thought process. It's just too vague to be anything imo, as it could be just Bill blacking out for some reason and then realizing he did that.
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I mean, if he's moving instinctively to conquer empires whilst he's mentally not there, that's instinctive action/reaction, by definition.
StrymULTRA said:
This should also be another evidence for EG intelligence, by the way.
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Absolutely.
StrymULTRA said:
This might be just a side effect for Bill's possession. Not too convinced here.
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She's not possessed, here.
StrymULTRA said:
This is already under Perception Manipulation, hallucination not really, as it's not like Ford was seeing things in the real world.
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Fair. I just used the word Hallucination because that's the word Ford used.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Bill is becoming 13-D btw.
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The only way I see him becoming 13D is due to Time Baby saying the rip will destroy the very fabric of existence. Shaking NR would scale onlt to 12D, the 13th dimension is temporal and thus is not involved in scaling like that, just like shaking universe is not Universe level+.
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
The only way I see him becoming 13D is due to Time Baby saying the rip will destroy the very fabric of existence. Shaking NR would scale onlt to 12D, the 13th dimension is temporal and thus is not involved in scaling like that, just like shaking universe is not Universe level+.
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Can understand this concern, but heh... we already have the rip scaling anyways.
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Shaking NR would scale onlt to 12D, the 13th dimension is temporal and thus is not involved in scaling like that, just like shaking universe is not Universe level+.
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Definitely.
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
The only way I see him becoming 13D is due to Time Baby saying the rip will destroy the very fabric of existence.
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StrymULTRA said:
we already have the rip scaling anyways.
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The context of the phrase "destroying the very fabric of existence" is already "filling the multiverse with the nightmare realm". There is no way the dimensional rift can scale to the nightmare realm's timeline.
 
CodeCCLL said:
Definitely.


The context of the phrase "destroying the very fabric of existence" is already "filling the multiverse with the nightmare realm". There is no way the dimensional rift can scale to the nightmare realm's timeline.
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Tbh "fabric of existence" is generally hinted to include both space and time, and Time Baby knows what a greater timeline is.

There's no reason to just exclude that.
 
I wonder if the guardian (maker of the calamity stones from amphibia.) could pose a challenge to bill (before everything with weirdmaggedon & stuff happened, like with his fight with the time baby.)
 
Chianli said:
I wonder if the guardian (maker of the calamity stones from amphibia.) could pose a challenge to bill (before everything with weirdmaggedon & stuff happened, like with his fight with the time baby.)
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Maybe but Bill is more powerful. He has MAX SECURITY while others don't (expect da dog)
 
Does Dipper, Mabel or any main cast member showed any feat of Stealth Mastery? It is included on the profiles but i don´t remember an exact episode where they performed any feat that could grant the ability (I'm going just by my memory btw, i still didn´t finish my rewatch of the series)
 
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