Gravity falls: Bill Cipher a/p downgrade

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Was hurt by a t-rex, downgrade him to wall level

Okay but fr:

Currently, Bill is 12D for transcending the 11D Trilazzxx Beta aliens, the problem is that the statement says 7 TO 11 dimensions at once, it means ford theorised they could be anywhere from 7 to 11 dimensional, not 11D outright. Normally this should be fine, however Book of Bill confirms the aliens to only be 7 dimensional, throwing out the 11D scaling (2nd image). It's relatively straightforward since Bill is more knowledgeable on the multiverse than Ford, and his more definitive statement on the aliens should take presidency over ford theoretical 11D one

But String Theory?

Okay ignoring the whole compactified dimensions stuff that relates to string theory. Bill states, string theory in gravity falls isn't called that because of anything relating to strings in actual string theory, but because it can be traded for string cheese. Clearly showing that the statement can't really be used to prove higher dimensions in the verse.

So as a result Bill and the Shaktron should get downgraded from possibly 1-B (12D) to 1-C (8D)

 

[Robo432343]

disagree for reasons below
(also the imgur link of them being 7-D doesn't work)

 

[StrymULTRA]

Not gonna lie but the reason why 1-B is there is because of the possibility that the 11 dimensions can also be of relevant size, as the Aliens can exist in also said dimensions (as if you're of X dimensionality, you already occupy X amount of dimensions).

however Book of Bill confirms the aliens to only be 7 dimensional, throwing out the 11D scaling. It's relatively straightforward since Bill is more knowledgeable on the multiverse than Ford, and his more definitive statement on the aliens should take presidency over ford theoretical 11D one

This is not a rebuttal. The statement made from Bill does not discredit that the Aliens can also go to 11D, it only says that 7D is their normal dimensionality, not their maximum one.

Very lazy CRT with very weak reason. Disagree.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Okay ignoring the whole compactified dimensions stuff that relates to string theory. Bill states, string theory in gravity falls isn't called that because of anything relating to strings in actual string theory, but because it can be traded for string cheese. Clearly showing that the statement can't really be used to prove higher dimensions in the verse.

On this... this is just dumb because we're just throwing away myriads of statements hinting at String Theory existing only because of a random joke.

No like come on dude.

 

[GraveDigger84]

Disagree FRA also your 7-D link doesn't work

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Was hurt by a t-rex, downgrade him to wall level

2D = 11-A

Currently, Bill is 12D for transcending the 11D Trilazzxx Beta aliens, the problem is that the statement says 7 TO 11 dimensions at once, it means ford theorised they could be anywhere from 7 to 11 dimensional, not 11D outright. Normally this should be fine, however Book of Bill confirms the aliens to only be 7 dimensional, throwing out the 11D scaling. It's relatively straightforward since Bill is more knowledgeable on the multiverse than Ford, and his more definitive statement on the aliens should take presidency over ford theoretical 11D one

Bill was talking about aliens who specifically crashed to Earth, Ford was talking about them as a race in their home dimension. Just because people are usually from 1 meter to 2 meters and the ones who live in front of your house are 1 meter, it doesn’t mean that 2 meter tall people do not exist, no.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

This is not a rebuttal. The statement made from Bill does not discredit that the Aliens can also go to 11D, it only says that 7D is their normal dimensionality, not their maximum one.

Where does it say the alien's change/fluxuate from 7 to 11 dimensions though? It says they exist in 7 to 11 dimensions at once, not "anywhere from" or "fluxuate between"

Bill was talking about aliens who specifically crashed to Earth, Ford was talking about them as a race in their home dimension. Just because people are usually from 1 meter to 2 meters and the ones who live in front of your house are 1 meter, it doesn’t mean that 2 meter tall people do not exist, no.

But that doesn't mean that aliens of different dimensionalities live in the same universe, nothing implies that to be the case. If anything this goes against the race being pansdimensional in the first place since only some members exist in 11 dimensions also wouldn't they wouldn't really be the same species then cause their of different dimensionalities.

On this... this is just dumb because we're just throwing away myriads of statements hinting at String Theory existing only because of a random joke.

"Myriad of statements" the only thing I can recall anywhere hinting about string theory is the "universe is a hologram" line which isn't really enough to warrant string theory. Also this is the canon explanation inverse since it's revealed in time-babies logs that Dennis and the card carrier exists.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

(also the imgur link of them being 7-D doesn't work)

strange, its working for me?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Where does it say the alien's change/fluxuate from 7 to 11 dimensions though? It says they exist in 7 to 11 dimensions at once, not "anywhere from" or "fluxuate between"

I mean, it's implicit that we as 3D beings already exist in all the 3 dimensions, not just the 3rd. The only way to make that statement to make sense is that they fluxuate between them.

But that doesn't mean that aliens of different dimensionalities live in the same universe, nothing implies that to be the case. If anything this goes against the race being pansdimensional in the first place since only some members exist in 11 dimensions also wouldn't they wouldn't really be the same species then cause their of different dimensionalities.

It does not matter, all that matters is the dimensionality of the multiverse.

"Myriad of statements" the only thing I can recall anywhere hinting about string theory is the "universe is a hologram" line which isn't really enough to warrant string theory. Also this is the canon explanation inverse since it's revealed in time-babies logs that Dennis and the card carrier exists.

^from the website

Plus did you forget that the Nightmare Realm literally works as a Brane, one of the main foundations of the string cosmology?

 

[StrymULTRA]

also your 7-D link doesn't work

He's talking about this.

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

Agree to everything besides "possible 1-B"
Idk why merit for it is even left

 

[StrymULTRA]

Agree to everything besides "possible 1-B"
Idk why merit for it is even left

Agree to what? It's a downgrade (a bad one), not an upgrade.

 

[SuperStar]

I agree with the upgrade.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Agree to everything besides "possible 1-B"
Idk why merit for it is even left

It's because the Nightmare Realm is a higher-dimensional/higher plane of existence accessible by 5th dimensional calculus. Despite there being supposedly being 7 to 11 dimensional beings/universe in the multiverse.

I agree with the AP downgrade to 'Low 1C, possibly 1C(8D)'.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Where does it say the alien's change/fluxuate from 7 to 11 dimensions though? It says they exist in 7 to 11 dimensions at once, not "anywhere from" or "fluxuate between"

I didn’t mean that. The reasoning was that individual aliens have well-defined amount of dimensions they exist in, but it varies amount the race. AKA, some aliens are 7D, some of them are 8D, some of them are 9D, etc. It just happened to be that the ones that crashed on Earth are 7D.
Again, make an analogue with humans being 1 to 2 meters tall.

But that doesn't mean that aliens of different dimensionalities live in the same universe, nothing implies that to be the case.

It says that they originate from Trilazzx Beta. It also honestly does not matter: dimensionality of the multiverse is what matters.

If anything this goes against the race being pansdimensional in the first place since only some members exist in 11 dimensions

What…?

also wouldn't they wouldn't really be the same species then cause their of different dimensionalities.

Would humans be different species although we have difference sizes?

 

[StrymULTRA]

How is that this thread is agreed by a good chunk of Ben 10 supporters?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

How is that this thread is agreed by a good chunk of Ben 10 Supporters?

This is a rhetorical question right

 

[StrymULTRA]

This is a rhetorical question right

Pretty much.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

I didn’t mean that. The reasoning was that individual aliens have well-defined amount of dimensions they exist in, but it varies amount the race. AKA, some aliens are 7D, some of them are 8D, some of them are 9D, etc. It just happened to be that the ones that crashed on Earth are 7D.
Again, make an analogue with humans being 1 to 2 meters tall.

Is there evidence to support them having different races. Besides there is literally an entire universe worth of difference between 1 to 2 meters and 7 to 11 spatial dimensions. Ford basicly described himself as a god to the 2D universe and it's people.

What…?

Pandimensional refers to possessing all dimensions of reality. If they posses lesser dimensions than that or reality then they aren't Pandimensional.

Would humans be different species although we have difference sizes?

No.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Is there evidence to support them having different races. Besides there is literally an entire universe worth of difference between 1 to 2 meters and 7 to 11 spatial dimensions. Ford basicly described himself as a god to the 2D universe and it's people.

How does this mean that the Multiverse is not 11D?

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

How does this mean that the Multiverse is not 11D?

I'm just asking if there is proof of them being different races. A 7th dimensional being wouldn't be able to perceive the 11th dimensional beings because beings lower dimensionality can't see the higher dimensions. Bill's entire race couldn't see the 3rd dimension. The only known being that can see higher dimensions is Bill, and he claims them to be 7th dimensional despite being smarter and more knowledgeable than Ford.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Ford basicly described himself as a god to the 2D universe and it's people.

And was harmed by them. Lol.

Pandimensional refers to possessing all dimensions of reality. If they posses lesser dimensions than that or reality then they aren't Pandimensional.

Ford referred to them as a race when saying they are pandimensional, and it is true that they as a race possess all dimensions of (their) reality.

No.

Exactly

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'm just asking if there is proof of them being different races. A 7th dimensional being wouldn't be able to perceive the 11th dimensional beings because beings lower dimensionality can't see the higher dimensions. Bill's entire race couldn't see the 3rd dimension. The only known being that can see higher dimensions is Bill, and he claims them to be 7th dimensional despite being smarter and more knowledgeable than Ford.

Do you even know why Bill is 1-B in the 1st place? Coz all these questions you do don't matter for it.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bill's entire race couldn't see the 3rd dimension.

Yeah, and other 2D species could harm Ford. 2D Giffany (2D because same as Rumble McSkirmish) could very easily interact with real people while being inside of a game but McSkirmish couldn’t, your point?

The only known being that can see higher dimensions is Bill, and he claims them to be 7th dimensional

Only about Aliens that crashed the Earth, not the whole race.

despite being smarter and more knowledgeable than Ford.

Ford is SG (and at worst he will be downgraded to EG if he will)

 

[ShionAH]

How is that this thread is agreed by a good chunk of Ben 10 supporters?

My bad

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

And was harmed by them. Lol.

Yeah, and other 2D species could harm Ford. 2D Giffany (2D because same as Rumble McSkirmish) could very easily interact with real people while being inside of a game but McSkirmish couldn’t, your point?

Kinda contradicts the supposed superiority between higher and lower dimensions. Giffany had to affect 3D tech via tech manipulation because she couldn't interact with the higher dimensional reality itself and Rumble was brought out of that lower flat universe with whatever that cheat code on the side if the arcade game was.

Ford referred to them as a race when saying they are pandimensional, and it is true that they as a race possess all dimensions of (their) reality.

So a human is pandimensional being because he exists within a 3rd dimensional reality?
Ford referred to them as all part of the same race. So they'd be the same.
That would still contradict the the word pandimensional as it pertains to all dimensions of reality. Ford describes them all as beings from Trilaxxz Beta. So they're all from the same reality.
Bill refers to them and himself as 'extraplanetary'. We know that Bill is from a 2D dimension and Ford met these Trilaxxz Beta aliens on is excursion through the multiverse, like how he met Bill's dimension. Indicating that this Trilaxxz Beta is but another higher-dimensional dimension.

Only about Aliens that crashed the Earth, not the whole rarace.

Ford was judging them based of appearances of their skeletal structure and still referred to them as 7-11 dimensional.

Ford is SG (and at worst he will be downgraded to EG if he will)

Bill is still smarter.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Bill is still smarter.

Ok, prove me now that his statement invalidated the 11D part.

All I see from you are nothingburgers.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Kinda contradicts the supposed superiority between higher and lower dimensions.

If you ever bothered to check the original 1-B thread, you’d know that dimensionality of entities being of insignificant size does not mean that structures are of insignificant size.

Giffany had to affect 3D tech via tech manipulation because she couldn't interact with the higher dimensional reality itself and Rumble was brought out of that lower flat universe with whatever that cheat code on the side if the arcade game was.

She saw them regardless, lol.

So a human is pandimensional being because he exists within a 3rd dimensional reality?

Strawman.

Ford referred to them as all part of the same race. So they'd be the same.

He says the race (aka all beings-aliens in that dimension) is pan-dimensional, not individual ones.

That would still contradict the the word pandimensional as it pertains to all dimensions of reality. Ford describes them all as beings from Trilaxxz Beta. So they're all from the same reality.
Bill refers to them and himself as 'extraplanetary'.

Okay? None of thar contradicts my point.

We know that Bill is from a 2D dimension and Ford met these Trilaxxz Beta aliens on is excursion through the multiverse, like how he met Bill's dimension.

Wow, Ford must have been time traveling to meet a dimension that was burnt trillions if years ago.

Indicating that this Trilaxxz Beta is but another higher-dimensional dimension.

Thanks for concession, truly.

Ford was judging them based of appearances of their skeletal structure and still referred to them as 7-11 dimensional.

He said 7-11D based of what he knows of them in general, the skeletal structure is simply to recognize that these must be Trilaxxz Beta Aliens

Bill is still smarter.

Not relevant to the discussion.

 

[ShionAH]

Ford is smarter, this is a hill I will die on. Bill just has more knowledge

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Ford is smarter, this is a hill I will die on. Bill just has more knowledge

Debatable

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

She saw them regardless, lol.

Where was it ever claimed Giffany and Rumble are 2D. There's plenty context for Bill but not for Giffany and Rumble. Rumble wasn't able to look up because he lacked animation for it, not because he was unaware of it's existence. This isn't really relevant, I'm just curious.

Strawman.

I was being sarcastic.

He says the race (aka all beings-aliens in that dimension) is pan-dimensional, not individual ones

Exactly if they are 7D pandimensional beings but there are 11 dimensions then those beings aren't pandimensional.

Okay? None of thar contradicts my point.

It does. Unless these Trilaxxz Beta aliens exists in their own seperate realities devided by dimensionality. Because as explained, they would pertain to all dimensions of their reality[7 or 11 dimensional]. And Bill states that they are 7th dimensional.

Wow, Ford must have been time traveling to meet a dimension that was burnt trillions if years ago.

Well, he does. Besides it's already been established that parallel versions of Gravity Falls exist in the multiverse. Heck, even parallel versions of Bill that didn't lose to 2 twelve year olds.

Thanks for concession, truly.

Sorry if I ramble a bit. It's part of my charm.

He said 7-11D based of what he knows of them in general, the skeletal structure is simply to recognize that these must be Trilaxxz Beta Aliens

Exactly "based on what he knows". Ford and Bill contradict each other here. Ford is either wrong in calling the Pandimensional and that there are possibly 11 dimensions out there and they just happen to be 7 dimensional or he's right in them being Pandimensional but wrong in there being 11 higher dimensions.

Not relevant to the discussion.

Kinda is given that their claims directly contradict each other.

Ford is smarter, this is a hill I will die on. Bill just has more knowledge

I agree with but only post multiverse explorer Ford. Because prior to that he was gullable and was heavily reliant on help from Bill and Fiddleford to complete the portal project but after/during his adventures through the multiverse. He could disassemble the portal all on his own and created a weapon capable of kill Bill. Bill having more knowledge on topics like this kinda helps prove my point though, as he'd have knowledge and experience based on these topics.

Ok, prove me now that his statement invalidated the 11D part.

All I see from you are nothingburgers.

Pandimensional: Of or pertaining to all dimensions of reality
These beings exists through all dimensions of the GF reality. Seven to supposedly eleven spatial dimensions. But Bill a more knowledgeable source claims them to only be 7th dimensional. So, I see 3 options here.
1. Ford is wrong about there being 11 dimensions and that these pandimensional beings exist within 7 dimensions.
2. Ford is wrong about them being pandimensional and only though that they existed throughout all 11 dimensions despite only existing in 7 dimensions. Still confirming that 11D exist in GF from whatever source Ford got this info from.
3. Bill is completely wrong in this scene.

You're already throwing insults. It's not even been 2 pages yet.

 

[Infinitinet]

I agree with the downgrade.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Where was it ever claimed Giffany and Rumble are 2D. There's plenty context for Bill but not for Giffany and Rumble. Rumble wasn't able to look up because he lacked animation for it, not because he was unaware of it's existence. This isn't really relevant, I'm just curious.

He couldn’t look up due to physically being unable to, he needed to lay on the ground to see it. When he was laying, we saw him being flat.

Exactly if they are 7D pandimensional beings but there are 11 dimensions then those beings aren't pandimensional.

Okay? He was referring to the aliens overall together as pan-dimensional, not individual ones. Did you even read what I said? Just because there are people who are less than a meter tall doesn’t mean that humans as a race can’t reach 2m+ height.

It does. Unless these Trilaxxz Beta aliens exists in their own seperate realities devided by dimensionality. Because as explained, they would pertain to all dimensions of their reality[7 or 11 dimensional].

Already refuted it.

And Bill states that they are 7th dimensional.

Okay? He talks about specifically the ones who crashed on Earth. Unless you have proof that the entire race was on that ship. That’s supportive for us, not you.

Well, he does.

This is not Bill’s home dimension LMAO.

Besides it's already been established that parallel versions of Gravity Falls exist in the multiverse.

Cool, unfortunately this point is irrelevant to this discussion.

Heck, even parallel versions of Bill that didn't lose to 2 twelve year olds.

He lost to old men, not kids.

Exactly "based on what he knows".

Yeah, what SG person knows.

Ford and Bill contradict each other here. Ford is either wrong in calling the Pandimensional and that there are possibly 11 dimensions out there and they just happen to be 7 dimensional or he's right in them being Pandimensional but wrong in there being 11 higher dimensions.

No, I explained it many times already. Ford was referring to all of aliens rather than individual ones. Bill was referring to those who specifically landed on Earth. You’re just trying to discredit a statement that makes Bill strong via flawed reasoning just for the sake of downplaying. Not like I’m surprised.

Kinda is given that their claims directly contradict each other.

They don’t? Those aliens exist from 7 to 11 dimensions. Not just 11 dimensions. Which means that some exist only in 7, some only in 8, etc.

You're already throwing insults. It's not even been 2 pages yet.

How “you’re throwing nothingburgers” is an insult? Genuinely.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

He couldn’t look up due to physically being unable to, he needed to lay on the ground to see it. When he was laying, we saw him being flat.

He couldn't look up because he didn't have the animation for it. "I have no looking up animation!" Flat is still 3D. Paper is flat but still occupies 3 dimensions worth of space.

Okay? He was referring to the aliens overall together as pan-dimensional, not individual ones. Did you even read what I said? Just because there are people who are less than a meter tall doesn’t mean that humans as a race can’t reach 2m+ height.

[Edit: What you said was phrased a little poorly. Apologies for the misunderstanding.]
That's exactly what said. The species is pandimensional, the race as a whole cause Ford describes them as a singular race of beings.
Ford said that the skeletons on the ship belongs to 7-11D beings and Bill pretty much insulted the entire species as "those stupid 7th dimensional Trilaxxz Betians crashed one of their ships" rather than "those stupid 7th dimensional Trilaxxz Betians on the ship".
If they are a race of Pan dimensional beings and there are individuals that don't have dimensionality pertaining to all aspects of reality then those individuals aren't pandimensional.
You're example is a bit off. You basicly saying since lowerD beings exist in one 'extraplanet' means that higherD beings can also exist but the second Bill attempted to move to a higher dimensional coordinate, his dimension burned.

Okay? He talks about specifically the ones who crashed on Earth. Unless you have proof that the entire race was on that ship. That’s supportive for us, not you.

Bill pretty much insulted the entire species as "those stupid 7th dimensional Trilaxxz Betians crashed one of their ships" rather than "those stupid 7th dimensional Trilaxxz Betians on the ship".

No, I explained it many times already. Ford was referring to all of aliens rather than individual ones. Bill was referring to those who specifically landed on Earth.

If some are 11D[truelly pertaining to all dimensions of reality] and some aren't then he isn't referring to all of them only some as pandimensional.

They don’t? Those aliens exist from 7 to 11 dimensions. Not just 11 dimensions. Which means that some exist only in 7, some only in 8, etc.

If this is the case than a majority of the population wouldn't be pandimensional. So, your conclusion is that some being are pandimensional and some aren't and that they all live together on the same 'extra planet" despite Bill's "extra planet" being destroyed once Bill attempted to go into a higher spatial coordinate.

Listen. I do agree that GF has a 11D multiverse. I just don't agree with the current reasoning. I honestly think option 2 here works.

Pandimensional: Of or pertaining to all dimensions of reality
These beings exists through all dimensions of the GF reality. Seven to supposedly eleven spatial dimensions. But Bill a more knowledgeable source claims them to only be 7th dimensional. So, I see 3 options here.
1. Ford is wrong about there being 11 dimensions and that these pandimensional beings exist within 7 dimensions.
2. Ford is wrong about them being pandimensional and only though that they existed throughout all 11 dimensions despite only existing in 7 dimensions. Still confirming that 11D exist in GF from whatever source Ford got this info from.
3. Bill is completely wrong in this scene.

Bill pretty much called the entire species dumb for crashing the ship, not just the crew. Ford is a genius, he's just not as knowledgeable as Bill. Ford calling them pandimensional and thinking they pertain to all 11 dimensions, is still acknowledges their existence. Paired with the fact that extraplanets/dimensions fall apart the moment lower dimensional beings move in higher dimensional coordinates.

 

[Planck69]

This seems like a quite incoherent and poorly explained thread.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

I mean, it's implicit that we as 3D beings already exist in all the 3 dimensions, not just the 3rd. The only way to make that statement to make sense is that they fluxuate between them.

Or that the aliens could be 7 OR 11 dimensional entities, not fluxuate between them

It does not matter, all that matters is the dimensionality of the multiverse.

Which is tied to the dimensionality of the aliens..........

^from the website

Did I not say "universe is a hologram" is the only evidence

Plus did you forget that the Nightmare Realm literally works as a Brane, one of the main foundations of the string cosmology?

Yes........yes I did........

I'm prolly not going to be online often btw, so sorry If I can't make replies quickly

 

[ShionAH]

I can actually see the 11D argument which makes Bill only 8D, but not sure on String Theory stuff

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

He couldn't look up because he didn't have the animation for it. "I have no looking up animation!"

Fair enough I guess

Flat is still 3D. Paper is flat but still occupies 3 dimensions worth of space.

Flat in geometry is 2D but whatever

Ford said that the skeletons on the ship belongs to 7-11D beings and Bill pretty much insulted the entire species as "those stupid 7th dimensional Trilaxxz Betians crashed one of their ships" rather than "those stupid 7th dimensional Trilaxxz Betians on the ship".

Okay? That still does not contradict my point. It just means that it was one of seven-dimensional Trilaxxz Betians to whom the ship belonged, simple. It’s as if the rocket that got destroyed to Earth was built by and belonged to 1 meter tall humans. Does it mean that 2 meter tall people do not exist?

If they are a race of Pan dimensional beings and there are individuals that don't have dimensionality pertaining to all aspects of reality then those individuals aren't pandimensional.

You have shown nothing so far that all of the members of the race exist only in 7 dimensions. Bill’s and Ford’s statements never contradicted each other.

You're example is a bit off. You basicly saying since lowerD beings exist in one 'extraplanet' means that higherD beings can also exist but the second Bill attempted to move to a higher dimensional coordinate, his dimension burned.

We don’t know how he attempted to show them the third dimension, irrelevant to the discussion.

Bill pretty much insulted the entire species as "those stupid 7th dimensional Trilaxxz Betians crashed one of their ships" rather than "those stupid 7th dimensional Trilaxxz Betians on the ship".

Quoting myself:

It just means that it was one of seven-dimensional Trilaxxz Betians to whom the ship belonged, simple. It’s as if the rocket that got destroyed to Earth was built by and belonged to 1 meter tall humans. Does it mean that 2 meter tall people do not exist?

If some are 11D[truelly pertaining to all dimensions of reality] and some aren't then he isn't referring to all of them only some as pandimensional.

He is referring to all of them collectively, not individually.

Listen. I do agree that GF has a 11D multiverse.

Then what the hell is your point???

Bill pretty much called the entire species dumb for crashing the ship, not just the crew.

He called only 7-dimensional members of the species dumb.

Or that the aliens could be 7 OR 11 dimensional entities, not fluxuate between them

“From… to” usually implies fluxuation, but honestly it doesn’t even matter, it does not attack 1-B at all.

I can actually see the 11D argument which makes Bill only 8D

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bill states, string theory in gravity falls isn't called that because of anything relating to strings in actual string theory, but because it can be traded for string cheese.

Ngl Bill does not even say that string cheese is the reason of it being called a string theory, you took that out of nowhere