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This isn't particularly an upgrade thread, but more along the lines of handling a feat that was going to be handled before but was postponed for more context, which I believe we have now that Dragon Ball Super has finished the arc.
In particular, it's a feat where Granolah, a new character within the series who has Instant Teleportation faster than Instant Transmission, and proceeds to react/predict, and attack a character with identical or superior speed Instant Teleportation ability to Granolah himself. Instant Transmission is commonly accepted to be Instanteous Teleportation on this site and not scale to their speed, but this is a clear feat for Granolah.
I'm fine with Outlier note, (although it'd be odd to do since this is restricted to the top tiers of the verse who have been wished to be the strongest in the Universe and only scale to the strongest-Being Goku in TUI, Vegeta in UE after being fueled up (debatable), Granolah, Gas, and Frieza, (form the feat is performed in is unknown, but generally assumed to be Black Frieza).
Or specifically combat speed rating, since Gas explicitly takes 20 minutes to fly across the Universe back to Planet Cereal, so it clearly doesn't scale to flight, (which is odd considering Dragon Ball explicitly has flight compare to combat speed prior, which means this could be chalked up to Gas not flying at top speed to save stamina, a concept that has been brought up before in both Cell and Frieza Sagas, and even in Buu Saga with Videl.)
Or a full Upgrade (which this thread isn't really for, but it's an option, one that is again, odd considering Gas' flight speed).
(Both of these include the chance of likely, potentially/possibly, etc.)
Or a reduction of how we treat Instant Transmission (another odd choice due to how Instant Transmission is consistently depicted throughout all of Dragon Ball as instant teleportation.)
Either way Staff and others pick, the feat in itself has to be indexed and dealt with eventually.
Depending on the options, it'd possibly look like:
1) Note: Despite Granolah, Gas, Frieza, Goku, and Vegeta all potentially scaling to this feat, this site considers this an outlier due to how flight speed and combat speed is consistently portrayed as fairly equal or approximate to each other, and Gas is explicitly noted to take twenty minutes to reach Planet Cereal from across the universe, revealing an discrepenacy in abilities. This is futher solidified by the fact the feat in itself currently has no other consistent feats alongside this outside of debatable non-canon material, (Dragon Ball Heroes/Dragon Ball Xenoverse) which is not utilized for the canon scaling of Dragon Ball characters.
2) Speed : Massively FTL+ Flight Speed, (possibly/likely) Infinite Combat Speed (scales to Granolah, who reacted and attacked to a faster Instant Transmission in the time Gas took to disappear and reappear.)
3) The above without Flight and Combat, maybe a note distinguishing that Flight Speed and Combat Speed do scale and is only accessed in short bursts, as once discussed in Damage's Flight and Combat speed separation thread that's covering only DBZ as far as I'm aware.
So something like:
Note: While Flight Speed and Combat Speed in Dragon Ball are usually comparable and relative, there are many discrepenacies that are noted between moments when characters should cross relatively minor distances near instantly, thus this wiki creates the distinction of flight speed in actual threads as something that occurs in short bursts akin to Piccolo's statements in the Android and Saiyan Sagas, with enlongated use tiring out the User, as discussed in the Buu, Cell, and Frieza Sagas by characters such as Krillin on Namek, Goku to Gohan on the way to the Cell Games, and potentially Videl in the Buu Saga.
Option 4 is something that would have to be discussed in depth, as such a drastic change in interpretation to what Instant Transmission has always been considered would be near blasphemous to some, and isn't something I'm even arguing for or would know how to change the parameters on, especially given the overwhelming evidence AGAINST such an interpretation.
In particular, it's a feat where Granolah, a new character within the series who has Instant Teleportation faster than Instant Transmission, and proceeds to react/predict, and attack a character with identical or superior speed Instant Teleportation ability to Granolah himself. Instant Transmission is commonly accepted to be Instanteous Teleportation on this site and not scale to their speed, but this is a clear feat for Granolah.
I'm fine with Outlier note, (although it'd be odd to do since this is restricted to the top tiers of the verse who have been wished to be the strongest in the Universe and only scale to the strongest-Being Goku in TUI, Vegeta in UE after being fueled up (debatable), Granolah, Gas, and Frieza, (form the feat is performed in is unknown, but generally assumed to be Black Frieza).
Or specifically combat speed rating, since Gas explicitly takes 20 minutes to fly across the Universe back to Planet Cereal, so it clearly doesn't scale to flight, (which is odd considering Dragon Ball explicitly has flight compare to combat speed prior, which means this could be chalked up to Gas not flying at top speed to save stamina, a concept that has been brought up before in both Cell and Frieza Sagas, and even in Buu Saga with Videl.)
Or a full Upgrade (which this thread isn't really for, but it's an option, one that is again, odd considering Gas' flight speed).
(Both of these include the chance of likely, potentially/possibly, etc.)
Or a reduction of how we treat Instant Transmission (another odd choice due to how Instant Transmission is consistently depicted throughout all of Dragon Ball as instant teleportation.)
Either way Staff and others pick, the feat in itself has to be indexed and dealt with eventually.
Depending on the options, it'd possibly look like:
1) Note: Despite Granolah, Gas, Frieza, Goku, and Vegeta all potentially scaling to this feat, this site considers this an outlier due to how flight speed and combat speed is consistently portrayed as fairly equal or approximate to each other, and Gas is explicitly noted to take twenty minutes to reach Planet Cereal from across the universe, revealing an discrepenacy in abilities. This is futher solidified by the fact the feat in itself currently has no other consistent feats alongside this outside of debatable non-canon material, (Dragon Ball Heroes/Dragon Ball Xenoverse) which is not utilized for the canon scaling of Dragon Ball characters.
2) Speed : Massively FTL+ Flight Speed, (possibly/likely) Infinite Combat Speed (scales to Granolah, who reacted and attacked to a faster Instant Transmission in the time Gas took to disappear and reappear.)
3) The above without Flight and Combat, maybe a note distinguishing that Flight Speed and Combat Speed do scale and is only accessed in short bursts, as once discussed in Damage's Flight and Combat speed separation thread that's covering only DBZ as far as I'm aware.
So something like:
Note: While Flight Speed and Combat Speed in Dragon Ball are usually comparable and relative, there are many discrepenacies that are noted between moments when characters should cross relatively minor distances near instantly, thus this wiki creates the distinction of flight speed in actual threads as something that occurs in short bursts akin to Piccolo's statements in the Android and Saiyan Sagas, with enlongated use tiring out the User, as discussed in the Buu, Cell, and Frieza Sagas by characters such as Krillin on Namek, Goku to Gohan on the way to the Cell Games, and potentially Videl in the Buu Saga.
Option 4 is something that would have to be discussed in depth, as such a drastic change in interpretation to what Instant Transmission has always been considered would be near blasphemous to some, and isn't something I'm even arguing for or would know how to change the parameters on, especially given the overwhelming evidence AGAINST such an interpretation.
