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I want you to look at this sword and tell me how its viable as a shield
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(Grace) Doomguy vs Connie Maheswaran
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I want you to look at this sword and tell me how its viable as a shield
Jackythejack
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rose's sword would be better.
i could give that to her
i could give that to her
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>Kite endlessly
He runs out of ammo. Connie can block/dodge hus projectiles until then.
He runs out of ammo. Connie can block/dodge hus projectiles until then.
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What's the vote count.
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2 for doomguy 1 for Connie
Jackythejack
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I don't think wok has voted at least and weekly says stomp which isn't a vote
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Connie cant exactly block a shotgun shot and if she gets hit by a few of the pellets shes done for as its AP is 4x her durabilityThe Wright Way said:
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I only see one legit garanteed win for Doomguy. Invisibility. Everything else Connie can handle.
Kiting is on a timer thanks to ammo, plus Connie's smart enough to just not get kited and let him run out of ammo once she realizes what's up. Invulnerability lasts 30 seconds, she can easily outlast. Chainsaw is a great way to get himself bisected. Shitgun can be blocked. Yes, she'll get clipped, but she can still survive. It might even be enough for Doomguy to pull a win depending on what he's got left in his tank at that point, but it's not a guarantee. Invisibility is the only option that outright guarantees victory if he goes for it. Which is exactly the problem. He's a video game character, we can't say what he'd open with. One strategy guarantees a win, but every others can be countered to an extent.
So, no, not a stomp.
Kiting is on a timer thanks to ammo, plus Connie's smart enough to just not get kited and let him run out of ammo once she realizes what's up. Invulnerability lasts 30 seconds, she can easily outlast. Chainsaw is a great way to get himself bisected. Shitgun can be blocked. Yes, she'll get clipped, but she can still survive. It might even be enough for Doomguy to pull a win depending on what he's got left in his tank at that point, but it's not a guarantee. Invisibility is the only option that outright guarantees victory if he goes for it. Which is exactly the problem. He's a video game character, we can't say what he'd open with. One strategy guarantees a win, but every others can be countered to an extent.
So, no, not a stomp.
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Connie cant exactly block a shotgun shot and if she gets hit by a few of the pellets shes done for as its AP is 4x her durability
While kiting? The whole point of kiting is keeping your enemy away. Ie. Out of Shotgun range.
While kiting? The whole point of kiting is keeping your enemy away. Ie. Out of Shotgun range.
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He starts 10 meters away, that is well within shotgun range
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Ooh I forgot I did that
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It's also well within "let's run up and chainsaw" range. This fight kinda hinges on what Doomguy does first. Choosing the wrong thing gets him cut apart at that range.
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I mean
He's still 4x stonger than Connie ap-wise and accordig to everyone voting for him he would just rip the sword out of her hands and cut her in half
He's still 4x stonger than Connie ap-wise and accordig to everyone voting for him he would just rip the sword out of her hands and cut her in half
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He's 4x stronger with two specific weapons. He'd have to open with those.
You can't really argue that. He's a video game character. His opener is completely random. He has no cutscenes to tell us otherwise. He could shotgun blast or turn invisible or he could go in with a chainsaw.
You can't really argue that. He's a video game character. His opener is completely random. He has no cutscenes to tell us otherwise. He could shotgun blast or turn invisible or he could go in with a chainsaw.
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He only has those two weapons here
AP and dura advantage on top of a 4x ap advantage with his weapons, invisibility enough to trick spider mastermind, 8-B invuln, ranged weapons connie cant block, several millionx higher lifting strength. Pretty much anything he does instantly kills connie.
AP and dura advantage on top of a 4x ap advantage with his weapons, invisibility enough to trick spider mastermind, 8-B invuln, ranged weapons connie cant block, several millionx higher lifting strength. Pretty much anything he does instantly kills connie.
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Bump
Jackythejack
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''Is that three for doomguy I dunno''
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OOF, this is a tough one. Hmmmmmmmmm. Uhhhhhh. . . . .I VOTE DOOMGUY (but as a very close match, like he wins 6/10) due to range, AP adventage, and bloodlust as others are saying. Most of Doomguy's stronger weapons are restricted here. He has four times Connie's AP, but that isn't enough for a stomp when Connie regularly fights 7-A opponents.
Doomguy's biggest disadvantages are skill (Doomguy has more experience, but Connie is still far more skilled), Doomguy's limited ammo, and Connie having a sword with 6-C dura (not AP though). Weekly, you said she can't deflect shotgun blasts, but I think she can; with speed equal, she is supersonic, and her sword does still seem big enough to block shotgun-blasts with her speed and skill (also with that speed she could just dodge). We've also seen her block splash-damage. And we could just give her Rose's sword.
Connie's biggest disadvantages are the AP-gap (her sword's dura can handle that but only if she blocks everything), range, and most importantly that because we have SBA for their personalities, Doomguy will go for the kill immediately but Connie won't unless she has no other options. In-character she will try to win by incap without killing before trying to kill. Incapacitating Doomguy without killing is really tough, since the guy has absolutely absurd stamina, endurance, and pain-tolerance. We have to remember that Connie is very kind and even if willing under SBA, she will be reluctant to kill.
For these reasons I think that Doomguy wins 6/10. On the other hand, if Connie was bloodlusted I would vote for her.
Doomguy's biggest disadvantages are skill (Doomguy has more experience, but Connie is still far more skilled), Doomguy's limited ammo, and Connie having a sword with 6-C dura (not AP though). Weekly, you said she can't deflect shotgun blasts, but I think she can; with speed equal, she is supersonic, and her sword does still seem big enough to block shotgun-blasts with her speed and skill (also with that speed she could just dodge). We've also seen her block splash-damage. And we could just give her Rose's sword.
Connie's biggest disadvantages are the AP-gap (her sword's dura can handle that but only if she blocks everything), range, and most importantly that because we have SBA for their personalities, Doomguy will go for the kill immediately but Connie won't unless she has no other options. In-character she will try to win by incap without killing before trying to kill. Incapacitating Doomguy without killing is really tough, since the guy has absolutely absurd stamina, endurance, and pain-tolerance. We have to remember that Connie is very kind and even if willing under SBA, she will be reluctant to kill.
For these reasons I think that Doomguy wins 6/10. On the other hand, if Connie was bloodlusted I would vote for her.
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Four for Doom
Oliver_de_jesus
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Doomguy fra
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Okay we suddenly only need one left.
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Connie gets a loss FRA
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Aaaaaand we're done, Connie just lost. This match was honestly just SAD for Connie, lmaoooo. Here she is, a kindhearted 15 year old marshmallow of a girl who would attempt to incap her opponent without killing before realizing that isn't an option, but that is exactly what would give her opponent the opening he needs to win, since he is an amoral madman who would start the battle with the mindset "I'mma straight-up merc this 15 year old." Lol.I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
I would still be interested to see if the results would turn out the opposite way if we did the match with Connie bloodlusted, since I would vote Connie in that case.
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Stop, don't look at Connie. Look at my eyes. Steven Universe is temporary, but DOOM is Eternal.
