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Donquixote Doflamingo VS Deidara
- Fight Location: Forest
- Starting Distance: 50m
- Equalized speed
- Both in-character
- Alive Deidara was used
Deidara: 1 (@M3X)
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(GRACE) Doflamingo vs Deidara
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Deidara: 1 (@M3X)
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Voting Doflamingo via Observation Haki and Armament Haki, Duplication (Can create a perfect replica of himself to fight alongside him: The Black Knight), Stronger Durability, Range and Awakening.
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Doflamingo with Duplication (Can create a perfect replica of himself to fight alongside him: The Black Knight) and Observation Haki (Abilities that are granted by this type of Haki are varying levels of Extrasensory Perception, Telepathy, Precognition, Information Analysis, Enhanced Senses, and Instinctive Reaction (the last two are elaborated on here) are easily enough to stop that attack... Plus has ways to deal with it even if it blows up... When doflamingo got blitzed by luffy his Armament Haki automatically turned on link and link
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Your whole argument is based on precog, as if this will help Doffy against a cloud of nanometer bombs that will detonate his body at cellular level. It sure will make Doffy to get away, giving Deidara range advantage since he can fly and keep distance from him, while creating bombs. In worst case scenario, Deidara just explodes himself and takes Doffy with him.
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Your highly underestimating doflamingo's precog which is superior to law's and which is massively superior to Smoker
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you are kind being baised but I'm going to go eat so ✌ 
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Voting deidara fra
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In a speed equalised match does Doffy have any means of escaping over 1km range before getting spammed by C4's microscopic bombs which enter your bloodstream if you breathe in?
From Doffy's page it says that Doffy prefers to go for making the opponent angry and then using their rage to mess with and then go for blind shots, what about deidara, if he starts with C4 or uses it quickly then idk if Doffy will be able to do anything about it.
This page says nothing about seeing micro sized bombs but it does say the user can see invisible opponents (microscopic bombs would virtually be invisible so context is needed on how these guys are invisible) even so, how would Doffy react to seeing millions upon millions of bombs for a few seconds and then fight back? Idk if any one piece character has reacted to seeing that many attacks in the brief time of using ken haki.
I'm not too sure on the arguments since it kinda depends on what deidara does in character and how Doffy will react to seeing an entire clouds worth of microscopic bombs (massive, massive amount) that are game over for him if he breathes in and needs to escape a 1km distance of. Has any ken haki user recieved some sort of sensory overload from seeing too many attacks? And if not has any user even seen that many attacks all at once?
From Doffy's page it says that Doffy prefers to go for making the opponent angry and then using their rage to mess with and then go for blind shots, what about deidara, if he starts with C4 or uses it quickly then idk if Doffy will be able to do anything about it.
This page says nothing about seeing micro sized bombs but it does say the user can see invisible opponents (microscopic bombs would virtually be invisible so context is needed on how these guys are invisible) even so, how would Doffy react to seeing millions upon millions of bombs for a few seconds and then fight back? Idk if any one piece character has reacted to seeing that many attacks in the brief time of using ken haki.
I'm not too sure on the arguments since it kinda depends on what deidara does in character and how Doffy will react to seeing an entire clouds worth of microscopic bombs (massive, massive amount) that are game over for him if he breathes in and needs to escape a 1km distance of. Has any ken haki user recieved some sort of sensory overload from seeing too many attacks? And if not has any user even seen that many attacks all at once?
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No I don't think so. link It's only range and time that needs to be trained...
1km distance is nothing to doflamingo... And can easily escape a bomb... Luffy does it in base link doflamingo is faster than gear 2nd luffy plus doflamingo uses his string on clouds to Pseudo-Flight so he can easily get away. Also wouldn't Limited Air Manipulation (Can kick hard enough to create an air wave capable of bisecting three towers) redirect the bombs...
He doesn't need to sense the others since they don't all go to his direction... luffy calls light speed slow link... These bombs will be barely moving for Doflamingo and has many ways to easily counter.
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Can Doffy dodge and escape 1km from a speed equalised cloud that is 1km big filled with microscopic bombs, the average human circulates 20-30 trillion red blood cells which are microscopic/similar in size to deidara's bombs. Your average 1km cloud is 500000kg and the average human weight is 65kg, if we divide this then we get 7692, multiply the red blood cell count (using a median of 25 trillion) equals to 192300000000000000/192.3 quadrillion bombs......
I'll repeat, can Doffy dodge roughly 192.3 quadrillion bombs that are micro sized meaning you cannot go in between them and go into your bloodstream if you breathe in that area as well as spanning over 1km speed equalised?
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I'll repeat as well... Doflamingo can outrun the bombs that's 1km in range... Plus can redirect them with Limited Air Manipulation (Can kick hard enough to create an air wave capable of bisecting three towers) and Conquerors Haki link, link and link
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If speed was unequalized, doffy would completely blitz and outclass him, but it isn't. Deidara FRA.
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Incon until I see more views.
I'm surprised yall started off with C4 as if that isn't his last resort technique.
I'm surprised yall started off with C4 as if that isn't his last resort technique.
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Abilities based on speed are assumed to be retained. Characters that can run over water via speed can, for example, still do so even if now technically too slow for that. Likewise, a character who can create a tornado by running fast in a circle can still create one by this manner, even though they are now running slower. (link)
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ik nothing about Deidara and just went of M3X mb
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You're fine.
Doflamingo has a sensing advantage and strings and deidara can't do a single thing to the birdcage.
Deidara is Mr. Boom boom with a far superior flight and can spam attacks.
How does Deidara deal with Doflamingo's awakening and how does Doflamingo deal with the bomb spam?
Can Deidara even see Doflamingo's strings? And can Doflamingo even avoid these bombs with equalized speed?
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Doffy's air waves are only several hundred meters and will not account for the whole attack as well as being an air shockwave....against micro sized attacks....Doffy doesn't use conquerors haki in character right off the bat (and it seems that C4 isn't used straight away either) and you also need to prove that Doffy can dodge such a stupid number of bombs that span a kilometer in speed equalised, you can't just say he just does it
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Armament haki?
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What do they do in character though? since arguing C4 when it's his last resort is kinda pointless rn
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Never said he dodges.... Outruns...
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Well doflamingo I think starts with
- Overheat (Excess Whip String): Doflamingo shoots a thick rope made of strings from his palm and whips it at the target. The thread generates enough heat to the point in which it is lit ablaze. Overheat's range can go from the sky of Green Bit all the way to Dressrosa, a distance of many kilometers, and is strong enough to cut through a building at that range as shown when he attempted to execute Sanji.
- Tamaito (Bullet String): Doflamingo points at his opponent with his index finger and fires a string from it as if he were firing a gun. While normally seen applying the ability with his index finger, he can fire Bullet Strings from all ten of his fingers simultaneously (as shown when he tried to execute Robin and Trafalgar Law after Trebol self-destructed).
- Goshikito (Five Color Strings): Doflamingo's signature attack. He has a string coming from each of his five fingers, increasing the range of his attacks and granting them the ability to cut targets with his arm swipes.
- Black Knight (Shadow Knight String): Doflamingo forms a clone of himself, made entirely out of string. Doflamingo can then manipulate the clone from a far distance, but the clone seems somewhat capable of operating independently (fought Luffy off-panel while Doflamingo himself focused on fighting Trafalgar Law). Doflamingo has shown great skill in manipulating his clone to orchestrate combined attacks with his real body, such as a double Goshikito. Even a single clone is very strong, able to fight equally with Law and hurt Luffy with its strikes. It even deflected Luffy's attacks with ease. This clone can also continue fighting after losing its head, and can only be destroyed when bisected or ripped into pieces.
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Also can Deidara even do anything against
- Parasito (Parasite String): By shooting out and attaching a string to his target's cervical at the nape of their neck, Doflamingo is able to control his victim's body. He can do this to multiple people at once (controlled King Riku and many of his soldiers at the same time), and from several kilometers away. Parasito attacks the nape of a humanoid target's neck, taking over their physical movements and controlling them at will while the victim is conscious and capable of begging for it to stop. Doflamingo sometimes uses a single one of these threads at once but has been seen making a small area rain with these threads, such as when he took over the marines in Dressrosa, and the soldiers 10 years prior.
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Awakening which can be used to block a shit ton of his attacks
Armament Haki is a dura amp. He's not immune or anything.
Doflamingo either
A. Pasasite then executes someone while they can't move
B. Jumps you with a Black Knight
3. Haoshoku Haki
Deidara
A. Sets off his C2 dragon and flies with it, keeping distance
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how is he outrunning the bombs?
A giant clay statue explodes and the gas fills up the 1km space straight away, your asking for Doffy to outrun a speed equalised explosion that doesn't has not much expansion time from what I have seen
Idk what to say in response to Doffy's starters since ik nothing of Deidara's kit and only understand his personality a bit
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