Cucumber Otter can dodge attacks that are just as fast as him, near instantly, sometimes fast enough to get his own attack in. He can also Teleport away from lasers and lightning with his reactions, so dodging all this would be easy. The timestops you mention would make the battle tricky, but not impossible.
So can playz, if I’m not mistaken, given how many fights he would have been in across whatever he does in Roblox, which would also give him a ton of prior experience in dealing with a bunch of different abilities in this case. Speed is equalised, so both are supersonic by default, so I wouldn’t say it’d be 100% easy, especially with playz’ tower heroes backing him up, which would make it harder to dodge, since otter has to fight multiple battles at the same time. If javen uses the timestop from whatever game he chooses, all he needs to do is use the error glove, slap otter with it, and off he goes. Javen has a lot of options here
If you wanted to resist a time stop, you’d need immeasurable speed (Moving faster than time itself) which otter doesn’t have, and even if he did, speed is equalised
This equalizes attack speed, not Reaction speed… I think.
Attack speed isn’t equalized (Which I didn’t know until DMUA told me) but everything else is
Well, then cucumber otter’s attack speed would work at least But to be honest, if we give him all of this… it’s almost impossible for Cucumber Otter to win. BTW, when did we say he gets all equipment?
In the calculation I made for him (It’s in one of the many links on the Fog page), I got 1602 M/S for his attack speed.
Okay… is the glove technically under Town Level?
Yes, sending people to a basically inescapable void is an ability, not AP
I call Game Mechanics for the inescapable part.
It's actually bfr
I know it’s BFR, but I’m saying Game Mechanics for the inescapable. Game Mechanics is when a thing in a game is put there as for balancing or as a way to have it work, etc. but isn’t actually viable in the threads. It being inescapable is likely due to game mechanics.
I… have never seen game mechanics being brought up in a thread before, at least in my experience. Otherwise we’d be basically ignoring characters’ abilities if they are from a game, which makes no sense
I know what Battlefield Removal is or else I wouldn’t have it on the Sketch Page, and other pages I made.BFR = Battlefield Removal if you don’t know
It works kinda like this: Let’s say this move has a set amount of damage, this happens as an RPG Mechanic for purposes of the move, but in actuality, it doesn’t work like that.
And that’s why RPG characters have their actual AP calced for that. Once again, if we just said that, then we’d be basically ignoring abilities as a whole, which would be pretty unfair
I was just giving an example, not why it’s game mechanics. Having a power that just straight up kills your opponent instantly is kinda broken as well.
Yes, and they have Existence Erasure, which is my main argument.
The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.
Huh? Where does that come from? Didn’t you say Otter was supposed to be Class 10 in this calc just before? You can’t change stats around when a versus thread is ongoing in FC/OC as well, that’s in the rules, cause people will just wank their characters’s to win matchups
Sorry, I didn’t know the rule. But also, I redid one of my old calculations that was incorrect, and class 50 was the result. You can get the link in the FOG verse page.
I believe if Cucumber Otter hit him with the 8 Golden Orbs Existence Erasure, he could definitely win.
Here's the thing playz wouldn't allow that to happen he wouldn't just stand there
While this is true, the same can be said for Cucumber Otter and the Glove.
But Otter ain't doing anything when time is frozen
I know this argument is popular, but I’ve said it time and time again. What about Red Mode? It would negate any attacks used on him besides like, Mental.
Javen does have Mind Manipulation powers and can hypnotize otts
