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Also which note?
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Goku vs superman
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So you can get higher into 2-A by upscaling but not via your cosmology being higher? That, my good sir, is absurd
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All I know is the Deathbattle was inaccurate due to the fact it used feats not used with the version of Superman they said they were using.
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Except it's "unless specified" here, as DC has a much bigger cosmology. And again, show me the note that says cosmology size doesn't matter. And how does Goku upscale?
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Doesnt superman has resistances to most of Xeno Goku skills?
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It has to be proven that more universes are treated to be superior. Otherwise infinite*infinite*whatever is just meaningless word salad, which is the case with DC Comics.
You're asking me why Xeno Goku has a scaling chain? Because now, that's what matters.
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I mean, 2-A is infinite on default. The case with all multiverse+ tiers
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What does this have to do with anything?
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Everything except for sealing, but Goku kinda shatters him in AP
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He has resistance to power null?
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Goku via sealing and one shotting. Also the keysword powernulled mechikabura who resists power null.
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Again what's his chain?
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This is the powerscaling chain for Xeno Goku, though this isn't mine and it comes from Ottavio_Merluzzo so keep that in mind:
Limit Breaker SSJ4 Xeno Goku >
SSJG Trunks >= Dark King Mechikabura >>>>>> SSJ4 Gogeta >>>>>>> Old Mechikabura >>>>>>> Dark Broly = Final Form Mira = SSJ4 Xeno Goku > SSJ3 Xeno Goku >>>>>>> Gravy >>>>>>> Base Xeno Goku > Chamel > Demigra (Transcended Demon God) > Demon God Demigra > Base Demigra (DBH) >>>>>> Xenoverse Demigra (TokiToki absorbed) = Baseline 2-A
Limit Breaker SSJ4 Xeno Goku >
SSJG Trunks >= Dark King Mechikabura >>>>>> SSJ4 Gogeta >>>>>>> Old Mechikabura >>>>>>> Dark Broly = Final Form Mira = SSJ4 Xeno Goku > SSJ3 Xeno Goku >>>>>>> Gravy >>>>>>> Base Xeno Goku > Chamel > Demigra (Transcended Demon God) > Demon God Demigra > Base Demigra (DBH) >>>>>> Xenoverse Demigra (TokiToki absorbed) = Baseline 2-A
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Tiering System FAQ
A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...
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Q: Is destroying multiple infinite multiverses a better feat than destroying a single one?
A: In spite of what our intuitions may tell us, destroying or otherwise fully affecting multiple infinite-sized multiverses is in fact not a better feat than doing the same to a single infinite multiverse, and thus, not above the "baseline" for 2-AThe reason behind this is that the total amount of universes contained in a collection of multiple infinitely-sized multiverses (Even one consisting of infinitely many of them) is in fact equal to the amount of universes contained in a single one of the multiverses that form this ensemble: It is countably infinite, as the union of countably-many countable sets is itself countable, and thus does not differ in size from its components. Thus, only an uncountably infinite number of universes actually makes any difference in terms of Attack Potency, at this scale.
This illustrates some of the more unintuitive properties of sets with infinite elements: Namely, given a set X, it being a subset of another set Y does not imply that Y > X in terms of size. An example of this is how the set of all natural numbers contains both the odd numbers and even numbers, yet all of these sets in fact have the same number of elements.
However, such a feat may indeed qualify as stronger if the verse itself treats it as such.
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Multiple infinite multiverses doesn't equal a bigger cosmology. Plus, the time trapper actually did destroy "every possible future" but one. Isn't this uncountable?Tiering System FAQ
A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...
Q: Is destroying multiple infinite multiverses a better feat than destroying a single one?
A: In spite of what our intuitions may tell us, destroying or otherwise fully affecting multiple infinite-sized multiverses is in fact not a better feat than doing the same to a single infinite multiverse, and thus, not above the "baseline" for 2-A
The reason behind this is that the total amount of universes contained in a collection of multiple infinitely-sized multiverses (Even one consisting of infinitely many of them) is in fact equal to the amount of universes contained in a single one of the multiverses that form this ensemble: It is countably infinite, as the union of countably-many countable sets is itself countable, and thus does not differ in size from its components. Thus, only an uncountably infinite number of universes actually makes any difference in terms of Attack Potency, at this scale.
This illustrates some of the more unintuitive properties of sets with infinite elements: Namely, given a set X, it being a subset of another set Y does not imply that Y > X in terms of size. An example of this is how the set of all natural numbers contains both the odd numbers and even numbers, yet all of these sets in fact have the same number of elements.
However, such a feat may indeed qualify as stronger if the verse itself treats it as such.
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Superman negs, In every way possible
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Ignore him, he was one of those DC fanboys from the Discussion forums. You should be expecting a lot of them to come
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"One of those DC Fanboys" okay, also I thought this is post crisis superman but anyways there's many reasons superman would beat Xeno goku and post flashpoint superman is likely higher than 2-A, but if here also we debate according to profiles then Idk
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No, I had doubt which is cleared btw, Also according to Profiles is Superman Just Baseline 2A?
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How above is xeno goku? And who's strongest 2A?
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Aren't controversial matches like these prohibited? This exact matchup is used as an example for a controversial match up on the Versus Thread Rules page:
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Goku's:
Limit Breaker SSJ4 Xeno Goku >
SSJG Trunks >= Dark King Mechikabura >>>>>> SSJ4 Gogeta >>>>>>> Old Mechikabura >>>>>>> Dark Broly = Final Form Mira = SSJ4 Xeno Goku > SSJ3 Xeno Goku >>>>>>> Gravy >>>>>>> Base Xeno Goku > Chamel > Demigra (Transcended Demon God) > Demon God Demigra > Base Demigra (DBH) >>>>>> Xenoverse Demigra (TokiToki absorbed) = Baseline 2-A
Superman is:
rebirth superman(after sun dips)>>>>>>>World Forger=Anti monitor>Spectre(without the boost)>Nabu>Kent and Inza Nelson> the Baseline 2A
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A week or so ago, I saw Saitama vs Goku trending on twitter.
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I know, anyways, I'm going to ask this to be closed since it's a stomp
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Yo!
Heard this needs to be closed, so you know, I'll do my job.
Heard this needs to be closed, so you know, I'll do my job.
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