Goku vs Hitler (Again)

[Grimreaperofjustice]

Because Goku is used to taking a punch to tell how strong an opponent is this is a stomp either way you put it so at least make it fair

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Now stuff can be mor einteresting

 

[Grimreaperofjustice]

^

 

[CursedGentleman]

So, Adolf scales to Tatsuya, who scales to Nyarlathotep, but his stats are weird af.

At least Speed of Light, possibly Omniscient.

So...

 

[Grimreaperofjustice]

over 1.2 quadrillionsx speed of light for sure for goku

If its just "possibly" it wouldn't be used here

speed of light vs massivley faster than light+

"so..."

 

[Meshifuari_Arimota]

Without the knowledge of OHK Goku doesnt stand a single chance, and that's the problem. I kinda want to know if it does applies to all of his skills (spells) or only physical attacks.

 

[CursedGentleman]

@Meshi

OHK is a specific skill made by his persona.

And there is also the allmighty attacks which ignores durability, but it wasnt added because they forgot.

 

[Grimreaperofjustice]

Give Goku knowledge of OHK this is completley unfair

 

[CursedGentleman]

How is that going to help if he cant see the persona?

 

[Grimreaperofjustice]

Goku is a snesory type person he'll know something is there especially if he has knowledge to it bro

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Goku now know abiut the ohk

 

[CursedGentleman]

Persona are like Stands, so no, I dont think so, since they dont have ki, I dont think he will be able to see them.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Cursed, i didnt forgot.

Thats why i added the 'some attacks negate durability" next to his AP

 

[CursedGentleman]

Still, look at the thread, first we have speed unequalized, which means that Grim needs to ignore his and Tatsuya rating and act like they only move at speed of light, now he also have knowledge.

Still vote for Hitler via him spamming invulnerability

 

[AKM sama]

If the OHK is fired, it can still be dodged just like anything else.

 

[Meshifuari_Arimota]

Welp since Goku knows about OHK now, I think he's capable of dealing with it by UI, I'm changing my vote to Goku,

 

[CursedGentleman]

Hitler still have invencibility and durability negation, you know.

 

[AKM sama]

How does his attacks negate durability? Do they phase through the body or something else?

Also, invulnerability can be trumped by AP. Invulnerability only works in the realm on which it is shown to work. It doesn't mean he will not receive any damage at all even if the attack is stronger than what he usually experiences.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Its a persona game mechanic thing

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Hitler only has TEMPORAL Invincibility (three turns) and nullifies light, mind and dark attacks.


Goku 1

Hitler 1

 

[CursedGentleman]

And there is this

'The Spear of Destiny is a weapon rumored to possess great power. The wounds inflicted by the spear can never fully heal' so not only Hitler can still use his OHK (Tho is to us to see if he will be able to dodge or not), healing, invulnerability, he also is able to negate healing if necessary.

And I found something interesting.

At the point in which the party of Persona 2 fought Hitler, they already fought characters like Throne, who in this wikia have immeasurable speed.

 

[CursedGentleman]

Hitler only has TEMPORAL Invincibility (three turns) and nullifies light, mind and dark attacks.


Goku 1

Hitler 1

No dude, Hitler nullifies light, mind and dark attacks normally, the temporal invincibility is against the other stuff.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Yeah, Goku has no light, dark nor mind attacks, he is not invulnerable to anything Goku has.

 

[CursedGentleman]

The invulnerability is not to those things, is for physical attacks dude

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

And, Persona 2 is a ******* mess in terms of speed on the wikia.

Hitler fought Tetsuya, who is Mftl+, Nya is just FTL+ and Throne has immesurable.

Tetsuya is the one who is scaled correctly based on the other monsters.


if you doo not agree....

 

[CursedGentleman]

I already asked actually, I am waiting for someone to answer

 

[Meshifuari_Arimota]

Another question, cant Goku in UI just kick the Spear, out of Hitler hands?

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Thats one of Hitler´s weakeness, his ap comes from his low 2-C spear (and well, kinda being an aparition from Nya and all)

But yeah, removing the spear would put him in a lot of trouble

 

[AKM sama]

UI Goku will just dodge all the attacks and then counterattack with what his body considers to be the best response at the given time.

 

[AKM sama]

So how high is Hitler in the Low 2-C anyway?

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

But yeah, Hitler is not just gonna let himself get disarmed either with his temporal invulnerability.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

As high as Tatsuya is

 

[CursedGentleman]

Thats one of Hitler´s weakeness, his ap comes from his low 2-C spear (and well, kinda being an aparition from Nya and all)
But yeah, removing the spear would put him in a lot of trouble

Is not because of that, his ap comes from his persona, which is Nyarlathotep, and I kinda forgot to mention that, but I am pretty sure that there is a massive content revision on the series due to the fact that most of them are outdated and stuff.

 

[CursedGentleman]

Well, gtg do stuff irl, bye

 

[AKM sama]

As high as Tatsuya is

And how high is that, exactly?

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Im fine with a stronger hitler tbh, it gives me quite a bit of material to work with

 

[Torlikoff]

Hitler FRA. God it feels weird to say that. Also, best out of context line ever rapid.

 

[Grimreaperofjustice]

Never voted for GAAAAAAAAAAAAKU I see so goku via versitality

 

[AKM sama]

From what I see in their profiles, Hitler should be around baseline.

 

[Yellowpig10]

Never thought I'd see the day where Goku fights Hitler to the death.
The end of the world is near I tell ya.

there is a certain fanfic that has that...