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Goku vs Gojo

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FluffyCreatureZ said:
You don't need speed at all, high 3-A yo 2-C range is easily enough to reach Gojo through infinity, as well as low 2-C AP and spatial manipulation, Goku could also maybe power null but Gojo resist that, Goku resist paralysis, he can still move, and that isn't important because he can still use ki without moving, just using his mind, so he glares the domain away.
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You just need 4-D stuff to bypass Gojo's Infinity. Just a Ki blast would be enough to oblirate Kakashi's rip-off
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
You don't need speed at all, high 3-A yo 2-C range is easily enough to reach Gojo through infinity, as well as low 2-C AP and spatial manipulation, Goku could also maybe power null but Gojo resist that, Goku resist paralysis, he can still move, and that isn't important because he can still use ki without moving, just using his mind, so he glares the domain away.
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bro, even if you reach him, you couldn't move. you would just be at a standstill as shown in the jjk manga and the vsb page. to actually do anything within his infinity, you would need infinite speed to counter the infinite space between goku and gojo. it doesn't matter the range, if it doesn't have infinite speed, it simply will stand there. ki is, just like cursed energy... well, energy. his DE is 4D by standard, so ki couldn't channel through that metaphysical space. also, gojo's infinity is amplified and perfected because of his six eyes, so his infinity could also be 4D, making ki also useless.

also, goku would be mindfucked by the DE, so that wouldn't work anyway.
 
either way, CC goku will probably win via stomp, but any other goku (except xeno) would probably lose.
 
XVII said:
bro, even if you reach him, you couldn't move. you would just be at a standstill as shown in the jjk manga and the vsb page. to actually do anything within his infinity, you would need infinite speed to counter the infinite space between goku and gojo. it doesn't matter the range, if it doesn't have infinite speed, it simply will stand there. ki is, just like cursed energy... well, energy. his DE is 4D by standard, so ki couldn't channel through that metaphysical space. also, gojo's infinity is amplified and perfected because of his six eyes, so his infinity could also be 4D, making ki also useless.

also, goku would be mindfucked by the DE, so that wouldn't work anyway.
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How would his infinity being perfected make it 4D? Looking at this he's only controlling space. I don't think him controlling space-time has ever been mentioned
 
sorry, i got it wrong. gojo's DE is 5D, since it is, by jjk canon: a infinite world.

since it's a metaphysical construct/dimension that has infinite space within a finite area, and it contains infinite information, it is by all means, a space-time manipulated area. it's basically a alternate universe within like, a 20m sphere or something.
 
I mean, it’s inf space, and not time, so I’m not sure how it would be 4d. It’s like the difference between nuking a universes matter, and deleting it’s space time. One is clearly not 4d
 
XVII said:
guys, even if goku tears through space to touch gojo, he couldn't move, because to actually do anything within gojo's infinity, you would need to have actual infinite speed, whilst goku is only mftl+

so, goku just gets paralyzed, gojo can activate his DE to mindfuck goku and then boom, unlimited void and gojo wins
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The space that infinity creates around Gojo causes the infinitely slowing effect if you can tear through that infinity you can bypass infinity
 
XVII said:
bro, even if you reach him, you couldn't move. you would just be at a standstill as shown in the jjk manga and the vsb page. to actually do anything within his infinity, you would need infinite speed to counter the infinite space between goku and gojo. it doesn't matter the range, if it doesn't have infinite speed, it simply will stand there. ki is, just like cursed energy... well, energy. his DE is 4D by standard, so ki couldn't channel through that metaphysical space. also, gojo's infinity is amplified and perfected because of his six eyes, so his infinity could also be 4D, making ki also useless.

also, goku would be mindfucked by the DE, so that wouldn't work anyway.
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Listen to this cap, things slow down because they are crossing an infinite distance not because the ability literally makes them slower, range bypasses that. Domain expansion is not 4D that is wank, the domain borders can be broken normally by AP not even close to Goku's so that's wrong.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Listen to this cap, things slow down because they are crossing an infinite distance not because the ability literally makes them slower, range bypasses that. Domain expansion is not 4D that is wank, the domain borders can be broken normally by AP not even close to Goku's so that's wrong.
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gojo's DE is entirely different than other DEs, bro
 
XVII said:
only speed, but it is undeniable that goku just flick his finger and gojo dies. thing is, goku can't move within his infinity
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But how would spatial manip, a 3D ability, block 4D AP. I'm not too sure how it works I think his infinity can't block all 4 dimensions of his attack because his infinity is 3D. I'm not good with dimension stuff though so
 
Livinmeme said:
4-D ap varies to Low 2-C to 2-A and goku is 2-A when DE is Low 2-C... i am not saying that DE is 4-D i am saying that if it was then it would be Low 2-C
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not necessarily. you see, transcendent stuff is not about tiering at all. take for example the square king, he is 0D but can affect 3D whilst only being 11-C. gojo doesn't need to be 2-C to affect 4/5D stuff
 
Ganasto said:
But how would spatial manip, a 3D ability, block 4D AP. I'm not too sure how it works I think his infinity can't block all 4 dimensions of his attack because his infinity is 3D. I'm not good with dimension stuff though so
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understandable. his infinity cannot block anything 4D, but it can slow it down to the point it simply stops. since goku is mftl+ only, he can't cross his space manip
 
XVII said:
understandable. his infinity cannot block anything 4D, but it can slow it down to the point it simply stops. since goku is mftl+ only, he can't cross his space manip
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Yes, but what I'm saying is that his infinity can't even interact with the entire 4D attack since it is 3D
 
XVII said:
not necessarily. you see, transcendent stuff is not about tiering at all. take for example the square king, he is 0D but can affect 3D whilst only being 11-C. gojo doesn't need to be 2-C to affect 4/5D stuff
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and also you gotta understand that he is, by the vsb page: "high 7-A, likely far higher"
 
Ganasto said:
Yes, but what I'm saying is that his infinity can't even interact with the entire 4D attack since it is 3D
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it's attack only affects 4D, but it doesn't behave like 4D at all. like, a ki blast doesn't just transcend everything immediately like a normal 4D attack would do. it needs to hit the target to work
 
and also, the OP should close this thread, as it doesn't make any sense and is against vsb rules. either gojo stomps goku or goku stomps gojo, it's not even funny
 
Canon goku has low 2-C range, infinity won't matter, he gets one shorted before using his DE
Cc goku just stomps tbh
 
You would have to move at an infinite velocity in order to counteract the Limitless' seemingly infinite speed reduction.
 
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