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Goku (Manga) > Goku (Anime)?

Sense everyone always talks about how Kaioken X 10 has a limit and that it's the only way for Goku to be T3-A I thought about how Goku in the Manga was capable of overpowering Hit and being unaffected by Hit's time skip using the SSG and SSB; it's clear that in the manga SSG Goku is equal to Hit using his full power, but once Goku went SSB he overpowered Hit again. Once the battle concluded by Goku forfeiting because hit wasn't using his assesination abilities it could be seen that Hit was very damaged while Goku did't even have a scratch; meanwhile in the Anime Goku had to use the KaiokenX10 and ended up with a very tired and damaged Goku. Before anyone says that the manga is just an adaptation of the Anime; Toyotaro never said that he said that. Toyotarō has the power to manipulate and adapt Toriyama's basic story just as the anime staff can do, so this creates discrepancies between the two mediums. So can the manga and th anime be considered different cannons? And, Is Goku from the manga stronger than Goku from the Anime? If that's the case, wouldn't Goku's profile need to be edited?
 
That is relative tho, with no real reference, you can say that x is weaker than y in manga, or x is stronger than y in anime; doesn't really matter tho, in anime Hit has more abilities (at the time), KKx10 doesn't seems to exist in manga, and Black has SSJ form in manga.
 
Antoniofer said:
That is relative tho, with no real reference, you can say that x is weaker than y in manga, or x is stronger than y in anime; doesn't really matter tho, in anime Hit has more abilities (at the time), KKx10 doesn't seems to exist in manga, and Black has SSJ form in manga.
Good point.
 
Antoniofer said:
That is relative tho, with no real reference, you can say that x is weaker than y in manga, or x is stronger than y in anime; doesn't really matter tho, in anime Hit has more abilities (at the time), KKx10 doesn't seems to exist in manga, and Black has SSJ form in manga.
Actually Black SSJ form is indeed canon as Akira Toryiama stated so in Black's design notes.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/810186407813619712

"Goku Black becomes a SSJ like Goku and a SSJ form of a different color" aka SSR.

Black never used the form in the anime during his fight with Goku because he was holding back and he did use SSJ against Trunks when they fought before but he got stronger so he no longer needed to go SSJ against Trunks anymore.

When Goku and Vegeta came to the future he already had Rose so he didn't use SSJ.
 
Poinciana1971 said:
Antoniofer said:
That is relative tho, with no real reference, you can say that x is weaker than y in manga, or x is stronger than y in anime; doesn't really matter tho, in anime Hit has more abilities (at the time), KKx10 doesn't seems to exist in manga, and Black has SSJ form in manga.
Actually Black SSJ form is indeed canon as Akira Toryiama stated so in Black's design notes.
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/810186407813619712

"Goku Black becomes a SSJ like Goku and a SSJ form of a different color" aka SSR.

Black never used the form in the anime during his fight with Goku because he was holding back and he did use SSJ against Trunks when they fought before but he got stronger so he no longer needed to go SSJ against Trunks anymore.

When Goku and Vegeta came to the future he already had Rose so he didn't use SSJ.
That's not true.Goku's Black SSR is just normal SSJ.But anime staff obviously decided to just change color of transformation
 
Please don't quote giant wall of text, also you are wrong.

Read the tweet it was stated by Toriyama himself that Black has SSJ and something else.

Aka Rose

In the manga Vegeta said Black's hair was yellow and Black said he had not "yet" reach a god form like SSB when Goku ask if he did.

Black's SSR is not a normal SSJ.
 
I personally don't see any problem here, if Black has an additional transformation good then. Also, where people read the manga? can't see it anywhere, or I'm not good looking for it.
 
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