Goku and Vegeta fight a 10-B Human

[That_moron2]

I'm pretty sure Goku resisting the hakai prevents his soul from being tampered by anything.

check the profile, its got a whole lot of stuff other than soul manip attached to it

 

[GarrixianXD]

It's only listed as Resistance to Soul destruction in the profiles.

Also Uta will make them fall asleep by singing. (I don't think Goku's limited sleep manip resistance can really be applicable here)

I'm pretty sure it still applies; Soul Manipulation defines one's ability to resist their souls being lethally interacted; Goku and Vegeta can resist their souls being destroyed, meaning interaction with their souls won't do much. Though, if this is some kind of Status Effect Inducement then is a different story, but if it's correlated to Soul Manipulation then I see no reason why Goku and Vegeta won't resist their "their souls getting captured".

 

[That_moron2]

I'm pretty sure it still applies;

Only if someone says dinner time or something (they won't).

Soul Manipulation defines one's ability to resist their souls being lethally interacted; Goku and Vegeta can resist their souls being destroyed, meaning interaction with their souls won't do much. Though, if this is some kind of Status Effect Inducement then is a different story, but if it's correlated to Soul Manipulation then I see no reason why Goku and Vegeta won't resist their "their souls getting captured".

They exclusively resist soul EE, nothing else with their souls

 

[BoastJr]

Wouldn't a 10-B human moving relative to Base Goku and Vegeta put them on edge ?

Speed equalised would mean that Uta has better reaction time then Goku / Vegeta but that would also make them more cautious since it wouldn't be normal.

Previously everything before was under the assumption Goku and Vegeta would think Uta is a "normal human" but speed equalised especially the higher reaction speed would put them more on alarm

Goku and Vegeta should also have enhanced vision dued to being saiyans so they would notice from far away.

Does her enhance senses notably vision extend to 4 kilometres away ?

 

[That_moron2]

Wouldn't a 10-B human moving relative to Base Goku and Vegeta put them on edge ?

This is assuming she tries throwing a punch or something with her 10-B stats

Speed equalised would mean that Uta has better reaction time then Goku / Vegeta but that would also make them more cautious since it wouldn't be normal.

Previously everything before was under the assumption Goku and Vegeta would think Uta is a "normal human" but speed equalised especially the higher reaction speed would put them more on alarm

They have no way to gauge reaction speeds

Goku and Vegeta should also have enhanced vision dued to being saiyans so they would notice from far away.

Does her enhance vision extend to 4 kilometres away ?

4 km max, they'd be in range to hear her which is like 180 meters by a quick google search. They also both have knowledge on each other being present

 

[Fezzih_007]

Yeah this is a mismatch, did you seriously made a match already knowing the result? Like "This two guys who can punch really hard vs a Girl that have a hax that Insta Win the match when she uses" damn, why you even do this? Is not even funny, like "Wow, Goku losing to a Girl that is way weaker than her lol" yeah, but said girl have a Power that Goku have no counter for. Atleast make doable somehow.

Like, for argument sake is either Vegeta trows a attack from a distance with a Ki blast (because he not gonna go run 4km just to Flicker her, when mister "70% of my fights I spend spaming Ki blast" can just trow a Ki blast at her) and kills her before her Singing reaches them or the sound of her Voice reaches them first, and they lose. Which is gonna happen more often than not.

Peak match

 

[That_moron2]

Peak match

Thank you

 

[Fezzih_007]

Actually nevermind, this is not actually a mismatch tbh, and could probally be added since Vegeta and Goku does have a chance here, even If is small.

But well.

 

[That_moron2]

Uta fra btw

 

[Eclipso]

I vote for the 10-B fra

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Goku still has consciousness under sleep inducement which allowed him to break out of the sleep manipulation. It was established that Goku still has awareness of his surroundings and broke out when necessary, such as when Bulma yelled food. So Goku resists pretty much everything Uta can do it as a wincon. I don’t see how Uta’s winning if her main wincon is contingent on that. In my opinion, this should be a stomp in Goku’s favor for that reason, but apparently people think it’s a close fight.

Voting Goku for this reason, unless I missed another potential wincon of Uta besides sleep manipulation.

 

[That_moron2]

Goku still has consciousness under sleep inducement which allowed him to break out of the sleep manipulation. It was established that Goku still has awareness of his surroundings and broke out when necessary, such as when Bulma yelled food.

This is such a dishonest interpretation of the events that I don't even know what to say. Goku needed the outside stimulus to break out, if what you said was true and he could break out of his own will at any time then it wouldn't be limited.

So Goku resists pretty much everything Uta can do it as a wincon

He doesn't resist mind manip, or immersion so no no he doesn't.

Voting Goku for this reason, unless I missed another potential wincon of Uta besides sleep manipulation.

You did

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

This is such a dishonest interpretation of the events that I don't even know what to say. Goku needed the outside stimulus to break out, if what you said was true and he could break out of his own will at any time then it wouldn't be limited.

He doesn't resist mind manip, or immersion so no no he doesn't.

You did

That’s why it’s limited, he had the capacity to hear his outside surroundings and got woken up, but he still was affected by the sleep manipulation.

How does the mind manipulation work?

Ok, can you list them? I was reading this and it was contingent on sleep manip, but my opinion can change depending on the other reasons. That seemed to her only wincon from what I was reading.

Edit: I knew, but I forgot since I replied while I was doing something, but the mind manipulation is through making the mental world so it’s pretty useless without the sleep manipulation.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

This is such a dishonest interpretation of the events that I don't even know what to say. Goku needed the outside stimulus to break out, if what you said was true and he could break out of his own will at any time then it wouldn't be limited.

Roshi's ability is something designed to resist any external stimulation, that's why Roshi is so confident in his technique that even when Goku's friends scream to wake him up, Goku wakes up when Bulma screams too but with a word related to "food", this shows Goku consciously knew about the screams.

 

[That_moron2]

That’s why it’s limited, he had the capacity to hear his outside surroundings and got woken up, but he still was affected by the sleep manipulation.

Fair ig but not sure why that lets him resist Uta because no one is there to wake him up.

How does the mind manipulation work?

Transports your mind to dream world.

but the mind manipulation is through making the mental world

The mental world isn't a purely mental world at all. Its a dream yes, but still a separate universe. It transports your mind to the the alternate dimension

Roshi's ability is something designed to resist any external stimulation, that's why Roshi is so confident in his technique that even when Goku's friends scream to wake him up, Goku wakes up when Bulma screams too but with a word related to "food", this shows Goku consciously knew about the screams.

Fair but no one is here to scream food

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Fair but no one is here to scream food

What I mean is that it's obvious that Goku is aware of his surroundings and knows which one to shout out something that makes him wake up like food

 

[That_moron2]

What I mean is that it's obvious that Goku is aware of his surroundings and knows which one to shout out something that makes him wake up like food

My bad. Its irrelevant though