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God's Blessing on this wonderful verse S1: Hax revisions

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QuasiYuri

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Forum move now being done. It's time to make one of my first post-forum move verse-wide CRTs, starting with a hax revision (and some minor things) for pretty much everyone we have profiles about. Next Konosuba one will be about the AP/Durability and Speed, but it's such a huge thing that it's best to make another CRT for it.

Note: If I don't mention something which may be wrong, it has a high chance to be because I'm waiting to see the scene supposed to give the power.

Kazuma​

Additions​

Social Influencing: It's Kazuma. It happens so oftenly that I don't really think I need to explain.

Limited Statistics Amplification: The Vanir Mask gives a boost under full moon, and Kazuma wore it everytime he goes stealing stuff (Vol 9)

Non-Physical Interraction with mythril wire: Kazuma bought the Mythril Wire especially because it could bind non-corporeal beings such as spirits (Vol 9)

Fragrance Manipulation : Lurk is said to mask your odor. Not sure if it qualify tho.

Weapon Creation: Water + Freeze can be used to create weapons, as seen against the Fenrir.

Attack Amplification: The "Fish Slayer" knife from the magic sword short story is stronger against aquatic ennemie

Extrasensory Perception: Kazuma can see ghosts after the events with Seresdina (vol16Chap3part3)

Electricity Manipulation and BFR: He has the lightning spell and he teleported away one of the monsters in the demon king castle.

Death Manipulation: Deadly Backstab has a chance of instant death. That's how he killed Mammon (Vol17Chap2part4)

Idk what it is: Kazuma has a skill named trap creation, which helps him to set up traps and make them as effective as true one even if they're half-backed

Explosion Manipulation, Heat Manipulation : He got Explosion, which has this by default

Low Multiversal to Multiversal Range for his Teleportation/BFR: Kazuma registered Heaven as a place to teleport, and casually go to it in the epilogue. Heaven isn't part of the Konosuba universe nor a part of our; Multiversal Range is because Aqua said in vol 1 that there are countless others worlds.

Description of the Supernatural Luck: He has it, but no description to show how good it is. Here's one: (Possess luck at a stat so high that he's only second to Eris, the goddess of fortune. His luck alone made him consistantly win at Elroad's national casino to the point of making the country nearly bankrupt, made so that he only was affected by the statut effect he wanted several times in a row despite Wiz's touch being randomized between 8 of them and helped him to never lose a game of rock paper scissor in his life even against enchanted opponents such as Aqua)

Possible Resistance to Mind Manipulation: Although he was under Serestina's mind control, he was actually fighting it pretty easily and she couldn't afford to have more people under her control because of Kazuma needing her to focus all of it. The only thing that really changed with him was being even worse of a person and becoming a Regina follower.

Weakness addition: Advanced magic and Golem creation actually were shown to be useless without manatite, because of Kazuma's magic stats being very low.

Addition of skill: The Eavesdrop skill allows to hear better.

Additions of being luck-based: There's a lot of skills which are luck-based (Bind, Auto Evasion, Snipe), and their descriptions should reflect this.

Possible key addition: While it doesn't change his stats that much, he should get a key for the end of the series (vol 16/17), since he got a massive additions to his abilities during these, even being considered as the "cheat" he unlocked and all (it isn't actually one, but it does change a lot in his skills and magic).

Removals​

Everything Seresdina-related. He only was a Regina believer for less than a chapter and lost every power related to this the moment he came back to his senses. Rip Damage Transferal and Body Puppetry

Escape is more Statistics Amplification than Probability Manipulation.

Why does he have Sleep and Lock/Unlock? I mean he did get Intermediate Magic, but it wasn't said anywhere that it gave you access to every magic in it as far as I know.

Aqua​

Additions​

Resistance to Life Manipulation: Said she can resist Drain Touch (Vol 9), and can also resist Heal as shown with Seresdina.

Size Manipulation: Her party trick with the dynamite made it becomes smaller (Vol 9)

Limited Matter Manipulation: She was able to reconstruct the wall Wolbach was harassing faster by manipulating moisture (Vol 9)

Transmutation:She can turn any liquid into water. It's also a running gag across the series. (vol 11)

Memory Manipulation: Her strongest heal restored Kazuma's memory (vol 11)

Space Manipulation and Existence Erasure: Her party tricks in Sylvia's volume involved putting objects ridiculously big inside smaller space and making things disappear forever (it's also a running gag across the series, when Axel's inhabitants thought that a guy erased a woman when he made her "disappear" for example). She already have both but one lacks a description and the other is not really EE or like very limited.

Fungus Manipulation : She can create Mushroom with her party tricks (vol15)

Probability Manipulation/Weakness addition: Her luck is so low that it is considered the reason the party encountered so much problem (when she wasn't here everything was fine); and it was shown to be strong enough to counter Kazuma's luck, making him lose a bet after winning countless times because of her betting on the same spot.

Precisions: Even her breath is holy by nature and the animal manipulation works on others animals (such as fish).

Possible Removals​

Reality Warping, Empathic Manipulation, Heat Manipulation and Clairvoyance: Where do they come from?

Remove the Break Spell rating. How is power null supposed to give Town Level or whatever?

Megumin​

Additions​

Summoning: Every Crimson Demons can summon demons, as explained in the devil summoner short story

Possible Removals​

Where does the Non-Physical Interaction comes from?

Also where all of Megumin's resistances come from?

Yunyun​

Additions​

Summoning: Same as Megumin

Removals​

Resistance Negation is a no, it's just their magic being stronger than the resistance. Yuiyui wasn't able to affect Darkness with sleep magic on their second visit because of her becoming more resistant.

Vanir​

Additions​

Statistics Amplification: Vanir is boosted under the full moon (vol 11)

Death Manipulation small change: Idk where the "with just a word" comes from; but his signature Vanir style death ray is this and it kills even if it doesn't hit according to him.

Resurrection of others and Self-Sustenance type 2: Vanir can gives one of his lives to resurrect others, as shown with Zereschute and devils need no food (Chap1part3). Also the Q&A about him says that devils gain lives just by doing evil deeds naturally in addition to him not remembering his own number because of being too high (which is consistent with Zereschrute countless lives despite being a weaker devil)

Resistance to Death Manipulation precision: His Vanir style death ray is supposed to kill the user, but he can spam it at will. It would make a better justification for his resistance. (vol 14)

It's more of a small change, but "(Able to break his own seal like nothing)" should be better as "Can casually broke seals such as Rosary's"

Weakness addition: Vanir precog is weaker on powerful individuals (Chap5part1)

Removals​


Resistance Negation is a no for the reasons said before. Again Darkness prove this by resisting Vanir style Death Ray.

Existence Erasure Succubi aren't even remotely comparable to devils like him, and there's clear difference in abilities even between him and Zereschrute, so they shouldn't be assumed to be the same. "Extinguish the existence" also was just a random death treat because of her bothering Vanir, not a statement saying he would erase her.

Possible Mind Manipulation Mind Manipulation is Maxwell's special power, same way Vanir has his all-seeing powers. They shouldn't have each other abilities

Type 7 Immortality: Devils aren't undeads. Limitless stamina should go away for the same reason.

Wiz​

Additions​

Resistance to Possession: In the short story "Lap Pillow from the fake shopkeeper", Wiz is shown to resist Vanir's possession and to be able to curse him

Healing: Wiz can heal with sugar water

Removals​

Resistance Negation same as everyone else.

Wanted to ask it for the others too, but where "Power Nullification (Can nullify any abilities that are about to be used or have already been cast)" comes from?

Remove the rating based on Light of Saber. Not only the spell is durability neg; but vol 17 precised that it was just more specialized to cut the barrier according to Megumin (Yunyun also cut a passage in it, and Yunyun isn't anywhere near of Explosion)

Darkness​

Additions​

Limited Mind Manipulation: The Decoy skill makes the opponent target the user

Resistance to Disease Manipulation: She's said to have a strong immune system (vol 12 chap1part1)

Resistance to Poison Manipulation: She tanked Hans' poison and is stated to have this resistance in vol 14

Removals​

Small change for Sleep and Paralysis resistances: It's Yuiyui, not Yunyun.

Same for Death Manipulation: Seresdina couldn't fire her death spell because of Kazuma being a Regina follower at this time. However Darkness tanked the Vanir style death ray, which is death manipulation.

Seresdina​

Removals​

Resistance Negation: See above again.

Power Bestowal should also go away, since it is something from Regina and not something she can do herself nor can she do it at will.

Resistance to Mind Manipulation: Idk the exact context for the I.Q drop thing, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply to every goddesses and more to the Axis Cult in particular.

Morality Manipulation is just something done with her Mind Manipulation, it should go away.

Weakness removal: She's not short tempered; Kazuma harassed her for several days to the point where her not reacting would be a feat on its own.

Wolbach​

Removals​

Type 8 Immortality She's not really reliant on Chomusuke, she got absorbed by it, which was what she intended to do for the cat.

Duke​

Everything Lich-related didn't happen. Duke was in the process of becoming one but was killed by Aqua and Wiz before. At best it should be another key entirely.

Hoost​

As explained by Zereschute; only High devils on the level of a Duke of Hell like Vanir have their true body in Hell, with lower High devils and below have their body manifested directly in the human realm.

As such, his type 9 immortality, Avatar Creation and maybe Low Godly regeneration should be removed.

Also, devils aren't undeads, so type 7 should go to. Limitless stamina should go away for the same reason.

Loli Succubus​

Same as Hoost; maybe also Possession, idk.

Bonus part/Canon part​

The anime is already considered Non-canon by everyone but the verse page still says otherwise. It just need to be removed.

Also I think it should be more clear about what's canon, respectively the Consulting with this Masked Devil LN, a Day in the Limelight for this Fool, Explosions novel, main series LN and the CD dramas.

Aaaand I think that's all for this CRT. I already have one for the AP/speed/dura of everyone nearly ready and I'm also planning to make a cosmology blog, mainly regarding Magic, Experience points, Species/Class special stuff, Skills and Curses. If anyone's interrested to help for the latter I would be very thankful for it.
 
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Aqua's RW and the like comes from curses.

Masked Devil, Dust, Explosion, Main series, and the CD Dramas should all be canon

Sleep and Lock/Unlock should stay as they're part of the intermediate class of magic iirc and there's no reason for him to have not learned it when he went on his massive crusade. Maybe throw a likely on there. Yunyun has them when she just learned intermediate back in Explosions I think.

Everything else is fine
 
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Yuri, I think you should add direct evidence like scans or quotes for the ability additions as stated by the Editing Rules; I am not to familiar with LN asides some research.
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I think Sleep and Lock/Unlock can remain as likely from Edward's points.
From my research, besides the anime, everything looks to be canon.

Edward, can you post proofs for this point: Aqua's RW and the like comes from curses?

I checked the CRT where the ability to have been added; the user who made the changes seems not even have mentioned it in the CRT, from checking his contribution.


I think the other removal looks fine.

I can reply more to the abilities after the evidences are posted.
 
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Curses are RW generally, as they can change it so that certain impossible events happen. Goddesses are capable of using curses (as shown with Chris threatening to curse Kazuma multiple times) and it should scale to the devils/priests as they're goddesses and are some of the more powerful beings in the setting.
 
I'll try to gather the evidences as fast as I can.

Regarding "curses"; Aqua and Chris uses divine punishments, and all of them are not that great.

Sleep and Lock/Unlock can't be Intermediate Magic since Yuiyui (Megumin's mother not Yunyun) has them. Yunyun is the only crimson demons with Megumin wjo doesn't just have Advanced Magic, so it can only be this.
 
Nah, Yunyun has them in Explosions vol. 3. That was when she only had Itnermediate Magic. It's not Advanced

"As Terry confronted the Rookie Killer, Yunyun speedily finished her incantation…!

“Sleep!”

She pointed her staff at the Rookie Killer. The huge black body lay down on the ground without resistance.

“Woah!” X3"

And I could've sworn Eris said curses. I know it was either that or scaling to Seresdina since Aqua learned every single priest skill.
 
Seresdina is more because of Regina especially being a dark god iiirc, and the only curse was the curse of revenge which is more a special Regina thing than a priest one.

Explosion is the only spin-off I didn't go much into yet, so can't say anything against that. Although it seems weird that a wielder of Advanced Magic only was able to use it too (+ as far as I recall, Lynn who masters Intermediate Magic said she doesn't have the spells Lolisa used too).

Maybe it is kinda different for status effects-based ones? Like how Unlock was used by Kazuma in vol 6 (although iirc it's just called a lock picking skill, so idk where the name "Unlock" comes from).
 
Well, Yunyun only had Intermediate Magic at the time (She was forced to learn that instead of Advanced because Megumin was in danger). She couldn't get advanced until she leveled up in-between Explosions and KS Vol. 4. Lynn is either explained as a contradiction between Hirukama and Natsume's writing (different writers ofc) or Lolisa's magic is special that's different since she's a devil.
 
Lolisa used the normal Sleep and Paralysis spell although like you said it can be put on this. However both Yuiyui and Yunyun having it seems really off. Btw, when does Yunyun exactly get Advanced Magic?
 
Also I gathered the evidences for the part I think need them, those not included are the self-explanatory or obvious ones

Kazuma​



Limited Statistics Amplification: The Vanir Mask gives a boost under full moon, and Kazuma wore it everytime he goes stealing stuff (Vol 9)

“This is one of the top seller in our shop, mass produced Vanir mask that is really popular in the society. If you wear it in a moonlit night, your mana will increase, metabolism enhance and your skin will have a silky luster because of the mysterious power of the devil. This is a rare black mask amount these products, so you can flaunt it to the kids.”

Non-Physical Interraction with mythril wire: Kazuma bought the Mythril Wire especially because it could bind non-corporeal beings such as spirits (Vol 9)

"—I had a skill named “Bind”. It’d become my main skill lately. If the skill went off successfully, and if the rope was tough enough, it could trap any opponent. Its success rate seemed to be based off of Luck, so its mechanics were practically designed just for me. I’d been using a special wire rope up till now, but knowing full well that an ounce of prevention was worth a pound of cure, I custom ordered a rope with the highest level of toughness. This mythril alloy rope could even bind astral bodies. It was an excellent product."

Extrasensory Perception: Kazuma can see ghosts after the events with Seresdina (vol16Chap3part3)

"Right now, we are about to set off on our journey to chase after Aqua and take down the Demon King.

As I left the house, I wistfully looked back and caught something odd at the corner of my eye.

A girl was waving at me from the second floor of the mansion, almost as if she was wishing me a safe trip.

I wonder if that’s the ghost of the noble girl that Aqua said was supposed to be living in the mansion.

When I rubbed my eyes and went back for a better look, she was gone.

Perhaps it’s because of the short time I spent as Regina’s priest, but I’ve been catching glimpses of odd stuff lately."

Death Manipulation: Deadly Backstab has a chance of instant death. That's how he killed Mammon (Vol17Chap2part4)

"Quickly pulling my sword that shallowly stabbed into Mammon’s head, I leapt back to put some distance between us.

The skill that I learnt from Assassin-san, Deadly Backstab, has a small chance of instantly killing the target if used from behind while they aren’t aware of my presence.

There are a lot of conditions that need to be fulfilled for it to be usable, but it’s a perfect fit for me."

Aqua​



Additions​

Resistance to Life Manipulation: Said she can resist Drain Touch (Vol 9), and can also resist Heal as shown with Seresdina

"Aqua was making a very sour face, but she still popped a second lime into her mouth.

“Ara. So Kazuma, you think you’re the strongest one here? Your skills might be convenient and can take down people like Darkness easily with Drain Touch… But have you forgotten? A lich skill like Drain Touch will only work if I’m not paying attention. Do you really think you can do anything to me?”

“Hey wait, I’m not that weak. In order to defend against Drain Touch and magic attacks, I’ve strengthened my resistance against abnormal status and increased my magical defense…”

Didn't found Seresdina scene yet.

Size Manipulation: Her party trick with the dynamite made it becomes smaller (Vol 9)

"Aqua picked up the imitation dynamite I just completed and inspected it curiously.

She then covered it with both hands.

“Kazuma, look.”

…?

Aqua placed the imitation dynamite on the table.

It was obviously two sizes smaller…

“It shrank.”

“You moron!!”

I snatched the dynamite shrank by Aqua. This wasn’t like the magic of some comedian on variety shows; it really physically turned smaller."

Limited Matter Manipulation: She was able to reconstruct the wall Wolbach was harassing faster by manipulating moisture (cgtranslation version says that it "makes dry faster" only tho)

"However, the parts of the wall that were repaired by Aqua were even harder than before.

“Hey, aren’t your skills a bit too perfect? Do you have some wall-repairing cheat or something? Also, isn’t this drying too fast?”

“Who do you take Aqua, the goddess of water for? I can control the water inside this to make it dry quicker you know? Think back, when it’s my turn to wash the clothes, the clothes always dry really quickly right?”

Memory Manipulation: Her strongest heal restored Kazuma's memory (vol 11)

"It must’ve been Aqua’s restoration magic.

It had completely restored all the memories that had been erased; and now, I couldn’t look at her straight."

Space Manipulation and Existence Erasure: Her party tricks, here's an example

"As Megumin remained at a loss for words, the man who had been remained still this entire time as a result of exhausting all his willpower, vigorously stood up.

“After getting dead-drunk in this town’s most high-grade store, this onee-chan said ‘let me show you a super-duper amazing performance!’ and freely used the store’s equipment and started some kind of show. No, it was a truly amazing performance. It really was, but you know, how could anyone have possibly known that there were no special tricks being used at all!? Hey, an entire grand piano completely disappeared after being wrapped in a handkerchief you know? From size alone, there’s no way that it could be hidden in a handkerchief right!?”

She did something strange again huh.

But she really did catch my interest. I’ll tell her to show me some other time."

Yunyun and Megumin​



Summoning:​

https://cgtranslations.me/2018/10/12/konosuba-volume-14-gamers-short-story/

Vanir​



Additions​

Statistics Amplification: Vanir is boosted under the full moon (he mentions it more than one time, and Dust spin off acknowledges the fact that full moon boost devils) "Darkness and Vanir’s joyful conversation echoed from the front door, but I couldn’t care less.

I should control my breath and get off Megumin first.

But Megumin only tightened her hold.

…Huh.





“Well done, Darkness! Keep holding him down! Sacred Exorcism!”

“Gahhhhhh!? No, that’s impossible! I…I have been defeated…even under the empowerment of the full moon, at my absolute peak…!”

“W-we did it…!” x2

Death Manipulation small change: Idk where the "with just a word" comes from; but his signature Vanir style death ray is this and it kills even if it doesn't hit according to him.

Resurrection of others and Self-Sustenance type 2: Vanir can gives one of his lives to resurrect others, as shown with Zereschute and devils need no food (Chap1part3). Also the Q&A about him says that devils gain lives just by doing evil deeds naturally in addition to him not remembering his own number because of being too high (which is consistent with Zereschrute countless lives despite being a weaker devil)

"Um… I don’t know who you are, but you are an acquaintance of Vanir-san, yes? I’ll go put on some tea.”

“A-Ah, I don’t need to eat or drink, so you don’t have to do that for me…”

Still hugging the box, Wiz casually welcomed the penguin."





"Ignoring us, Vanir sighed and went to the penguin’s side. He slightly opened the zipper on the penguin’s back and softly blew into the gap.

As he did so, the empty costume suddenly started inflating again-

“Eh?”

After Vanir zipped the costume again, the penguin leapt to his feet.

“Sacred High-”

“Hey, stop that, you’ll vanquish him again. Come on, he’s already scared out of his wits.”

The trembling penguin hurriedly hid behind the shelf upon seeing Aqua start chanting her magic again.

“V-V-Vanir-sama, this violent blue-haired woman, could she be…”

“Yes, as you might have suspected, she’s our natural enemy. Your remaining lives were all purified by her upon entering my store, but because you expired in front of me, Moi was able to restore one of your lives. However, if you run into her in the future without me around, then that’ll be it.”

https://cgtranslations.me/konosuba-qa-vanir/

Resistance to Death Manipulation precision: His Vanir style death ray is supposed to kill the user, but he can spam it at will. It would make a better justification for his resistance. (vol 14)

It's more of a small change, but "(Able to break his own seal like nothing)" should be better as "Can casually broke seals such as Rosary's"

Weakness addition: Vanir precog is weaker on powerful individuals (although he later said that he understood why by seeing his identity, so maybe it's a angel special thing?) + using it on himself make it less effective

“Moi does not need you to tell me that! Moi have been using my powers on him for quite some time, but Moi still can’t get a lock on him. It doesn’t seem like he’s an ordinary pervert. There’s a high chance that he is strong enough to fend off Moi all-seeing eyes.”





"<If I got Sir Vanir to divine a path to victory for me, even if my luck is bad, I’d still be able to draw the winning card every time.

“Still, I’ve heard that Sir’s powers of foresight will lead to no good end if used to satisfy his own desires. He told me when I suggested that he would be better off using his powers to win games of luck and chance.”

I thought that he would be able to win every time if he can see the future, but it seems like the world isn’t this easy to cheat.>

Wiz​

Resistance to Possession: In the short story "Lap Pillow from the fake shopkeeper", Wiz is shown to resist Vanir's possession and to be able to curse him

https://cgtranslations.me/2018/06/08/volume-13-short-story-the-lap-pillow-of-the-false-shopkeeper/

Darkness​

Resistance to Disease Manipulation: She's said to have a strong immune system (vol 12 chap1part1)

"Speaking of whom, Darkness’s mother was the older sister of Sylphina’s mother. Her maternal bloodline had strong magical power and magic resistance, but also weak immune systems. It seems like Sylphina herself is no exception.

On the other hand, Darkness seemed to have inherited both her father’s strong immune system and her mother’s magic resistance, forming the perfect exemplar of the Dustiness family."

Hoost and Loli Succubus​

As explained by Zereschute; only High devils on the level of a Duke of Hell like Vanir have their true body in Hell, with lower High devils and below have their body manifested directly in the human realm.

As such, his type 9 immortality, Avatar Creation and maybe Low Godly regeneration should be removed.

“Well, that’s good then. Oh, those are the feelings of shame that Vanir-sama likes so much. I’m not particularly fond of them myself, so there’s no need to offer such emotions to me.”

Facing the teasing of the penguin, Darkness hid her blushing face under the table.

“—Now then, let’s go back to our original topic. You wish to have one of my nails, yes? Unlike greater devils like Vanir-sama whose real body still remains in hell, for a devil who has brought his true body into this world like me, even removing a small portion of my nails causes me great pain.”

The penguin said in a dignified voice while regally crossing his legs."
 
YuriAkuto said:
Lolisa used the normal Sleep and Paralysis spell although like you said it can be put on this. However both Yuiyui and Yunyun having it seems really off. Btw, when does Yunyun exactly get Advanced Magic?
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Off-screen, after Vol. 3 of Explosions 1. Since it's a prequel and Yunyun has already learned stuff like Light of Saber when she first shows up in the main series.
 
I guess Yuiyui's the weird case then. I'm fine with Kazuma having a "likely" for now.
 
Going by what's accepted for now, removals are fine and Kazuma gets a "likely" (the suggestion you made)?

Waiting for Elizhaa's opinion regarding the evidences brought up.
 
I just discovered that Combatants will be Dispatched! may be canon to Konosuba. Some dudes said it was in the same multiverse and that Vanir appeared in it.
 
Sorry for the late reply, I didn't get notifications until today.

The ability additions look fine, with the evidence posted.

Looking back, Shiro's suggestion of putting the Kazuma's removed Seresdina ability in a new key could also work well.
 
Do we really count having an ability for less than a chapter enough? I don't mind making it another key tho.
 
I think it can be done; from the definition, I think a key is decided on a case by case basis.
Key: For characters who have transformation stages/power-ups or who become stronger through certain points of the story, insert those transformations/power-ups/timelines here in bold.
 
What the others accepted can probably be applied.
 
I'll apply them later this day then.

Btw do anyone mind if I do some clean up in the process? Idk if it's just me but things like Enhanced Senses and all look better when put among the first powers of a P&A.
 
They'll be in a few minutes, had some stuff preventing me from finishing them yesterday.
 
Thank you for helping out. Tell us here when you are done.
 
He just have tabber because of this revision being especially for hax, with the later one being stats related.

Also his stats doesn't really change between each of them.
As a regina follower he's just normal Kazuma under mind control believing in something.
In EoS while he is around level 30, it was already said in vol 11 that his stats wouldn't go up when he was still below 20 (in his "base").

Although I can see his EoS having another key because of Explosion and manatite-enhanced spells, I think it would be easier to just do it in the next revision (also because currently scaling is so bad that Kazuma would scale above his own Explosion).
 
The way tabbers are made makes me think Kazuma should have 3 different keys since they are based on separate points of the story and have a major difference in abilities; keys can be made even if the characters same tiers but different abilities and the standard is such for such as a key.

I would say just make use of the same tiers as placeholders for the 3 keys then revised the tiers later from another thread.
 
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Well, the second tabber is truly just him during one chapter then being back to normal, with the only difference being the brainwashed/regina follower part (which only gives him 2 powers, with one he loses after said chapter).

I don't mind making a key, but I see it as highly unecessary.
 
There's nothing more to do here yeah.

Konosuba stats revision thread will be tommorow or around monday.
 
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