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Goddess Madoka vs Alice (Shin Megami Tensei)

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Isn't Madoka above baseline too?

Alice is scaled out of Beelzebub who is barely baseline. Like, downwards scaling from Kagutsuchi as he is weaker but not overwhelmingly so.
 
@Marco

Compared to what?

@Matt

Madoka is only slightly above baseline because she did the feat without any real effort. The version well above baseline is Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen who is >>> her supposed maximum which is >>>> Madokami, which is the version used here.
 
@Dodo

Nah, if it's still inconclusive no real reason to vote again.

They are officially besties ovo.
 
Btw isn't Alice supposed to be acausal? I remember a revision about all the demons being acausal to an extent a while ago.
 
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