Goddess Madoka vs Alice (Shin Megami Tensei)

[Scarletmoon56]

Credit to AtomicMonkey4Life for VS Template


Madoka Kaname

vs

Alice

Both Become Besties: 9 (Kaltias, Gargoyle One, DodoNova, RebubleUselet, ALRF, Marco Shark,Bluetrekking, BlahBlah, Matthew Schroeder)

Wanted to this one for awhile. In a multiverse; different from your average SMT one, there was a girl named Alice. She made a contract with an incubator and became one the most powerful magical girls known. Unfortunatley she fell into despair and became the Witch of Death. The Law of Cycles came to take away her despair but suprisingly couldn't. Alice's magical power was so great that instead of turning her into a witch, she became a demon. Alice wants to obtain the Law of Cycles power for herself.

Conditions

+ Ultimate Madoka (2-A)

+ Devil Survivor 2 Ultimate Boss Alice (2-A)

+ Speed Equalized

+ Win via any means

 

[Kaltias]

I mean.

If Alice can't get past type 9, Madoka wins extremely high difficulty via war of attrition.

If she can, Alice simply says "Die for me" and Madoka dies.

 

[Scarletmoon56]

Not so much of an SMT expert muhself.

Tbh only played Persona 3, 1/4 of Persona and dodging spoilers for Persona 5 I'm normy trash I know

Maybe get Matt or Dragon in on this?

 

[ALRF]

How dare you, using two besto girls

• Cries in a corner

 

[Scarletmoon56]

1st Bump

 

[Scarletmoon56]

2nd Bump

 

[Scarletmoon56]

3rd Bump

 

[Scarletmoon56]

4th Bump

 

[ALRF]

I will do the honor and bump it for the 5th time

 

[Shootingkill]

Would Alice's Almighty spells get past Madoka's type 9 immortality?

If it couldn't, I might go for Madoka via conceptual manipulation.

If it could, I probably go for inconclusive as it might depends on who would one shot first.

 

[Kaltias]

Madoka's conceptual manip can't one shot other 2-As

Edit: Wait Alice has Mid-Godly now? If she can't get past type 9 inconclusive, if she can super easy win for her. Like, borderline stomp level of easy

 

[Scarletmoon56]

Looking through some of the higher end SMT cast, none of them have any Type 9 Immortality and all of them have immortality based on the concepts they represent, even YHVH who is a higher-dimensional being. So until someone disproves it otherwise, I'm gonna say Alice has nothing for Madoka's trancendant immortality.

 

[Scarletmoon56]

Bumpo

 

[Scarletmoon56]

BUmp

 

[Scarletmoon56]

bumpo

 

[Kaltias]

Eh, inconclusive until someone can prove that Alice can bypass Madoka's type 9 I guess

 

[Schnee_One]

Not even Matt knows. Inconclusive FRA

 

[DodoNova2]

Eh, inconclusive until someone can prove that Alice can bypass Madoka's type 9 I guess

^^^^

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Voting Inconclusive FRA.

 

[Scarletmoon56]

Bump0

 

[ALRF]

Wait i didn't vote?

Voting inconclusive.

Really don't see how either of those two is gonna kill each other (Alice and Madoka Type 9, Madoka and Alice Mid-Godly)

 

[Marco_Shark]

inconclusive

 

[ALRF]

That makes it 6

Soo close to becoming besties (Ó©ç┬░┬░)Ó©ç

 

[Bluetrekking]

Voting Inconclusive.

 

[Blahblah9755]

I think most major demons/gods in SMT have a situation similar to type 9 immortality going on, and only one character in the verse can actually get past it to permakill them, so I'm mostly certain Alice can't get past Madoka's immortality.

My vote goes inconclusive too.

 

[Kaltias]

Homura will be so jealous ovo

 

[ALRF]

Karutiasu....GO ADD THIS NOW

 

[DodoNova2]

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[ALRF]

Also where the heck is my hamburger?

 

[Marco_Shark]

Inconclusive wins?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Can anyone explain how Madoka's Type 9 works?

 

[Kaltias]

Can anyone explain how Madoka's Type 9 works?

Exists separated from the multiverse as a purely conceptual entity in a higher plane of existence.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

"Exists separated from the multiverse as a purely conceptual entity in a higher plane of existence."

... So a high-end SMT demon.

 

[Kaltias]

I guess? Higher end than Alice or not?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

SMT demons exist in the Expanse, a conceptual world of pure thoughts outside space and time of the multiverse, transcending past, present and future. It is also called the Atziluth World (World of Emanations), while the physical multiverse is called the Assiah World (World of Actions).

Meaning that it is the conceptual realm which is beyond the physical world.

 

[Kaltias]

Welp, then she can definitely get past it.

The votes are invalid I guess.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Does Madoka have Type 8 / Mid-Godly Regen too?

 

[Kaltias]

Type 8, not anymore.

Mid-Godly yes.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

So still neither can put the other down. OVO.

And Madoka actually outhaxes and out APs.

 

[Kaltias]

I thought Alice was stronger than baseline people?