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God Toppo vs Dormammu (GRACE)

Coolboy6 said:
did you not see the fight? Vegeta was still hurting Toppo

Because he was using his strength and Beerus effortlessly blew the Hakai away
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Bro/sis, no offense here but your arguments are pretty weak. It's blatantly obvious that Frieza was using Ki and even if he wasn't (for... some reason) he still can resist EE, it's on his profile.

If you disagree with this i suggest you to make a CRT.
 
Vizer04 said:
Bro/sis, no offense here but your arguments are pretty weak. It's blatantly obvu¿ious that Frieza was using Ki and even if he wasn't (for... some reason) he still can resist EE, it's on his profile.

If you disagree with this i suggest you to make a CRT.
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IM ******* DONE WITH THIS THREAD. EVERYONE HERE IS BEING STUPID AF. LOOK AT YOUR ARGUMENTS AND EVERYONE ELSE’S BRO. THEY’RE 100X STUPIDER.
 
Coolboy6 said:
IM ******* DONE WITH THIS THREAD. EVERYONE HERE IS BEING STUPID AF. LOOK AT YOUR ARGUMENTS AND EVERYONE ELSE’S BRO. THEY’RE 100X STUPIDER.
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Hey, if you aren't comfortable here then i'm sorry, it wasn't my intention to be rude.
 
Coolboy6 said:
did you not see the fight? Vegeta was still hurting Toppo
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Was the fight linked? I have not seen Super in quite a while, & my memory is not as reliable as I would prefer.
Coolboy6 said:
Because he was using his strength and Beerus effortlessly blew the Hakai away
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"He was not using his ki because he was using his strength... because he was not using his ki"? I feel like more concrete reasoning is needed for that assertion.
In Dragon Ball, Ki is used to augment physical abilities; If Frieza was doing everything he could, he would definitely be using his ki.
WHY would using his strength while fighting for his life mean not using his Ki, which is practically his very life force?

Also, why bring up that Beerus effortlessly blew the Hakai away? Of course he did; Beerus is a God of Destruction, & being able to control GoD energy is something Beerus has done for centuries. Not to mention Beerus is almost certainly stronger than Toppo by a huge margin, so to speak.
Coolboy6 said:
IM ******* DONE WITH THIS THREAD. EVERYONE HERE IS BEING STUPID AF. LOOK AT YOUR ARGUMENTS AND EVERYONE ELSE’S BRO. THEY’RE 100X STUPIDER.
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Sorry to have bothered you.
 
EVERYONE IS APPARENTLY FORGETTING THAT DORMAMMU IS AN INCORPREAL BEING AND CAN’T BE AFFECTED. AND APPARENTLY PEOPLE THINK THAT TOPPO CANT GET HURT BECAUSE OF HIS ENERGY EVEN THOUGH VEGETA WAS CLEARLY HURTING HIM.
 
Hakai literally warped infinite nothingness, Dormammu being incorporeal doesn't matter lol. If he exists, he can be erased.
 
Coolboy6 said:
EVERYONE IS APPARENTLY FORGETTING THAT DORMAMMU IS AN INCORPREAL BEING AND CAN’T BE AFFECTED. AND APPARENTLY PEOPLE THINK THAT TOPPO CANT GET HURT BECAUSE OF HIS ENERGY EVEN THOUGH VEGETA WAS CLEARLY HURTING HIM.
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Also how many times must I say Toppo himself said he couldn't destroy anybody because he would get disqualified? Outside the tournament is a different story.
 
Coolboy6 said:
EVERYONE IS APPARENTLY FORGETTING THAT DORMAMMU IS AN INCORPREAL BEING AND CAN’T BE AFFECTED. AND APPARENTLY PEOPLE THINK THAT TOPPO CANT GET HURT BECAUSE OF HIS ENERGY EVEN THOUGH VEGETA WAS CLEARLY HURTING HIM.
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Do you like playing tabletop games but can't be in the same place at the same time?
 
Coolboy6 said:
EVERYONE IS APPARENTLY FORGETTING THAT DORMAMMU IS AN INCORPREAL BEING AND CAN’T BE AFFECTED. AND APPARENTLY PEOPLE THINK THAT TOPPO CANT GET HURT BECAUSE OF HIS ENERGY EVEN THOUGH VEGETA WAS CLEARLY HURTING HIM.
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Is Dormammu stated to not have a soul?
 
Coolboy6 said:
EVERYONE IS APPARENTLY FORGETTING THAT DORMAMMU IS AN INCORPREAL BEING AND CAN’T BE AFFECTED. AND APPARENTLY PEOPLE THINK THAT TOPPO CANT GET HURT BECAUSE OF HIS ENERGY EVEN THOUGH VEGETA WAS CLEARLY HURTING HIM.
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Reiterating a question of mine from earlier this thread:
Imaginym said:
Even if Toppo's God of Destruction Hakai is so unlike Zeno's abilities (Which could delete Zamasu fused with a universe & spreading to other timelines.), wasn't there an instance where Beerus & Champa's fighting as Gods of Destruction was stated as destroying space/time, or am I mistaken?
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Tier 2 characters can affect space time dormamu is incorporeal because he is made up of space time
 
So toppo has the range to effect him. Hakai can erase souls, spirits, energy attacks, objects, people and much more from existence, plus It gives you void manipulation [aka, effecting the void] so topping throws a hakai ball at dormamo and Dourmamo gets erased since he has no Resistance to EE
if he doesn't have any resistance, and most of his attacks are Energy blast, then I guess toppo wins if it's not a stomp
what are Dourmam's wincons
 
Bernkastelll said:
It being a void is true, but it being infinite is a minstranslation
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Dragon Ball Super EP78 (2:56 - 3:14)

（大神官）開催する場所は 無の界。
Great Priest: The place where it held, is the Realm of Void.

（悟空) 無の界？
Goku: Realm of Void?

（ビルス）時間も空間もない 永遠と虚無だけに満ちた世界だ。
Beerus: A world without time and space, filled with only eternity and emptiness.

（大神官）無の界は　文字どおり 何もありませんので 思う存分　戦っていただいて 構いません。
Great Priest: The Realm of Void is just as its name. Since there is nothing in there, you can fight to your heart's content without worrying anything.
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:unsure:
 
I think the wiki treats it as non infinite
yet the profile do? Maybe we need a ctr for it or something like that
 
Orange said:
You say that higher ki can resist hakai right?
let's say it's true [IDC if it's true or not] dormamo doesn't have any ki, the argument is null.
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Dormammu does have energy thing which works similar to Ki, but he doesnt resist Existence Erasure, so yeah, the argument is pointless lmao
RisingIons said:
Dragon Ball Super EP78 (2:56 - 3:14)


:unsure:
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Yes, Eternity refears to time, ''filled with eternity and emptiness'' how does it means that the place is infinite?
 
Orange said:
You say that higher ki can resist hakai right?
let's say it's true [IDC if it's true or not] dormamo doesn't have any ki, the argument is null.
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Isn’t ki energy though? Pretty much anyone can have ki. Look at videl. She has limited ki
 
Coolboy6 said:
Toxic bitch
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btw, thanks for the compliment




also, coolboy, i know that you are a very nice person, but u have some anger issues when someone has a opposite opinion, we can explain the things better about this match, u can ask the doubts, such as the differences between incorporeality types, just because someone have incorporeality, doesnt means that the enemy cant affect him, it depend of the type, if it was something like NEP 2, AE type 1, then okay, but being made by space-time doesnt means nothing to Low 2-C characters, which can literally affect a Space-Time
Coolboy6 said:
Actually, I’m done with this thread. It’s stupid and dumb.
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The thread is not really stupid and dumb, btw, do u have some doubts and questions about the standards? we can explain it
 
Coolboy6 said:
Isn’t ki energy though? Pretty much anyone can have ki. Look at videl. She has limited ki
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Yeah, everyone has ki in dbz
not in marvel, unless they have the same ki, even if they have "ki" [which I'm pretty sure isn't similar to dbz] they won't get the benefis of it. Prove that dourmamo has the same extaxt detailed ki just like everyone in dbz, if you do, then we can argue about "ki stronger, ki negates hax hur dur"
 
Orange said:
Yeah, everyone has ki in dbz
not in marvel, unless they have the same ki, even if they have "ki" [which I'm pretty sure isn't similar to dbz] they won't get the benefis of it. Prove that dourmamo has the same extaxt detailed ki just like everyone in dbz, if you do, then we can argue about "ki stronger, ki negates hax hur dur"
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Marvel does have it, but it doesnt matter, as Hakai currently is not accepted as ''If you are stronger it doesnt works''
 
Bernkastelll said:
Marvel does have it, but it doesnt matter, as Hakai currently is not accepted as ''If you are stronger it doesnt works''
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As of Rn it doesn't chi was introduced in iron fist and that's non canon to MCU (the profiles still treats it as canon though)
 
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