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being abstract =/= literally being part of a dream
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God Of Water meets Unkillable bastard
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Dreaming shit into existence isn't that rare in fiction, y'know
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true but in TES that's only for the god-tiers as i just stated
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Evidently not...
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Dagoth isn't dreaming things into existence, he has his own reality warping to do that
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You said he was his own dream
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Dagoth Ur's Soul and Consciousness are forever trapped into the Dreamsleeve, which as I explained here is the most fundamental and external part of the Godhead's Dream which exists beyond Space and Time in all forms as a realm of pure Information and Mortal Interaction, Pontos ain't mindhaxing him.
He does stomp Dagoth Ur, though, but due to the shenanigans involving the Dreamsleeve and him existing merely as the Dream of a Dead God, he isn't permanently putting him down either.
So inconclusive.
He does stomp Dagoth Ur, though, but due to the shenanigans involving the Dreamsleeve and him existing merely as the Dream of a Dead God, he isn't permanently putting him down either.
So inconclusive.
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Stalemate FRA
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What about perception manipulation?
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Like Pontos has
A looooot of non lethal incap methods here
Dagoth Ur can't even effect Pontos
A looooot of non lethal incap methods here
Dagoth Ur can't even effect Pontos
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how can't Dagoth affect Pontos?
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Pontos insane resistances
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pretty sure Dagoth's hax is pretty i n s a n e
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Define "insane"
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TES-level
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"Dagoth Ur via being an elder scrolls character" is not a reason...
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there is nothing stopping Dagoth from sound/info maniping Pontos out of existence
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ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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>Sound Manipulation killing Mid-Godly
...What?
...What?
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>Matter Manipulation / Sound Manipulation / Information Manipulation (Capable of manipulating the underlying themes and notes which comprise the most fundamental layer of reality as the Song of Creation)
Pontos resists none of this btw
Pontos resists none of this btw
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>Matter
Non corporeal
>Sound
So what?
>Information
So type 3 conceptual manipulation? Which pontos also has?
Non corporeal
>Sound
So what?
>Information
So type 3 conceptual manipulation? Which pontos also has?
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Missed that he resisted matter manip, my bad
>Non-corporeal
good enough matter manip can affect non-corporeals, look at GK
>So what?
did you even read the description?
>So type 3 conceptual manipulation? Which pontos also has?
don't see your point here, as that's not concept manip
Pontos doesn't even have the type of concept manip listed, and doesn't resist it
>Non-corporeal
good enough matter manip can affect non-corporeals, look at GK
>So what?
did you even read the description?
>So type 3 conceptual manipulation? Which pontos also has?
don't see your point here, as that's not concept manip
Pontos doesn't even have the type of concept manip listed, and doesn't resist it
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I still don't see why pontos can't just mindhax
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Because Dagoth Ur's Soul, and by extension his Consciousness, resides in the Dreamsleeve, which is entirely beyond Pontos' reach.
Then again, Saint Seiya is probably outdated and going to go through revisions in the future, so.
Then again, Saint Seiya is probably outdated and going to go through revisions in the future, so.
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well now Dagoth resists mind hax
probably on a 4-D level considering TES
regardless, unless you can prove that Pontos can mind hax something that doesn't exist, that point is moot and my vote goes to Dagoth if it wasn't already counted
probably on a 4-D level considering TES
regardless, unless you can prove that Pontos can mind hax something that doesn't exist, that point is moot and my vote goes to Dagoth if it wasn't already counted
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Pontos has nothingness manipulation
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that doesn't prove anything
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Pontos can mindhax gods who resist mindhax
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^^^Ultima Reality said:
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refer to what Ultima said
Pontos can't mind hax Dagoth, even discounting his resistences
Pontos can't mind hax Dagoth, even discounting his resistences
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Why can't pontos effect the dream sleeve?
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because he doesn't have anywhere near the range to reach it iirc
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It is literally the most external and fundamental level of the Amaranth's Dream, Pontos ain't reaching it.
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You mean 1-A?
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Pretty much.
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wdym?
Pontos does probably need 1-A range to reach it, which he doesn't and can't
Pontos does probably need 1-A range to reach it, which he doesn't and can't
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As usual, Dagoth Ur gives Pontos a gift of Corprus, Divine cancer.
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>Disease Manipulation
Pontos is not a biological entity
Pontos is not a biological entity
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