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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

The_one_you_least_expect said:
Predicting peoples actions is one thing, predicting there deaths is something completely different.
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Predicting deaths doesn't come from future sight. It comes from the fact that beings like Kratos and Freya are predictable because of their choices. This is why they told Kratos that he'd die like the prophecy said, and this is why they were proven wrong when Kratos subverted this by opening up to Atreus at during the battle at Asgard.

They are blatantly not even able to see multiple possible futures.
The_one_you_least_expect said:
There’s nothing contradicting the well having infinite timelines in it nor the norns using it to seeing possible futures
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I didn't say it's a contradiction to infinite timelines, I just said your point about them being able to see all possible futures is wrong.
 
ByAsura said:
Predicting deaths doesn't come from future sight. It comes from the fact that beings like Kratos and Freya are predictable because of their choices. This is why they told Kratos that he'd die like the prophecy said, and this is why they were proven wrong when Kratos subverted this by opening up to Atreus at during the battle at Asgard.

They are blatantly not even able to see multiple possible futures.

I didn't say it's a contradiction to infinite timelines, I just said your point about them being able to see all possible futures is wrong.
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May I ask, how are they even able to predict Kratos's future? With Kratos's acausality and fate immunity, this shouldn't be possible. I'm just confused. Unless they're just spouting random bullshit or something?
 
Diamentus said:
May I ask, how are they even able to predict Kratos's future? With Kratos's acausality and fate immunity, this shouldn't be possible. I'm just confused. Unless they're just spouting random bullshit or something?
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Not just that, not even Zeus could predict Kratos lunging at him like that, and the Three Kings Rhadamanthus, Aeacus and Minos literally called his future being "cloaked in shadow". I'd say it's a case of the Norns making faulty decisions this time around. Hell, their predictions also went against the Mural Wall paintings where Loki becomes Odin's adopted child (Norns say Heimdall would gut him long before that happens).
 
It's precisely because they can't see the future that they can tell Kratos' future.

They aren't basing it off some abilities, they know his past and previous decisions, so they know his future unless he diverts course.

And the thing is, they were wrong in the end anyway because Kratos truly had changed as a person.
 
KLOL506 said:
You do realize that the Well of Urd was supposed to have a similar build structure as the Well in the Realm Travel Room, right? It doesn't in Ragnarok, it's just a big-ass lake where the Norns live.
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Ok, is there anything that says it doesn’t having infinte time
ByAsura said:
Predicting deaths doesn't come from future sight. It comes from the fact that beings like Kratos and Freya are predictable because of their choices. This is why they told Kratos that he'd die like the prophecy said, and this is why they were proven wrong when Kratos subverted this by opening up to Atreus at during the battle at Asgard.

They are blatantly not even able to see multiple possible futures.

I didn't say it's a contradiction to infinite timelines, I just said your point about them being able to see all possible futures is wrong.
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Yet somehow the norns know them so well with very little contact.

I’m not saying they can see all possible timelines, just some.
 
Yes, the Norns know everyone and their past decisions to some extent with little contact. They knew that Mimir was Puck (despite having told nobody about that) and similar shit.
 
ByAsura said:
It's precisely because they can't see the future that they can tell Kratos' future.

They aren't basing it off some abilities, they know his past and previous decisions, so they know his future unless he diverts course.

And the thing is, they were wrong in the end anyway because Kratos truly had changed as a person.
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Ah, so they just based him off his Greek self and attempted to predict his actions because of it?
 
The_one_you_least_expect said:
Ok, is there anything that says it doesn’t having infinte time
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The Well of Urd isn't even mentioned as being a bauble to begin with. They make no mention to time and call Fate and Destiny as being practically non-existent when Mimir makes mention of Kratos being the Destroyer of Fate.

The_one_you_least_expect said:
Yet somehow the norns know them so well with very little contact.
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Kratos's legend has reached far and wide to the point where literally EVERYONE knows who he is. You don't just expect a Godkiller to drop in your pantheon for no reason and you don't expect to just let him go around doing his thing without at least asking if he desires to kill you.

The_one_you_least_expect said:
I’m not saying they can see all possible timelines, just some.
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Nope, not even that happens. Kratos bluntly puts this into perspective when he makes mention of the Greek Sisters of Fate and their capabilities and Freya calls them dangerous and irresponsible, even flat out saying that nobody in the Nine Realms has that kind of power.
 
Zeus calls himself/is called omnipotent like 3 times from my very vague recollection.

That's 3x more than enough for Tier 0.
 
KLOL506 said:
What the **** LMFAO

We have never heard of such scans LMFAO, let alone admiration for Thanatos, people rarely wank him that often, but I guess they couldn't wait until today LMFAO.
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Damn, I can't find those shorts on YouTube. But it was like a page from a manual where it was said that Thanatos was before the Titans and created the outverse.
 
NikHelton said:
Damn, I can't find those shorts on YouTube. But it was like a page from a manual where it was said that Thanatos was before the Titans and created the outverse.
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You mean the Domain of Death? That existed long before the Titans did?

That doesn't mean anything in terms of tiering or hax, though it is indeed the realm that separates both the Mortal World and the Underworld, as mentioned by Gaia and the Mural at the doorway that needs the Skull of Keres.
 
KLOL506 said:
You mean the Domain of Death? That existed long before the Titans did?

That doesn't mean anything in terms of tiering or hax, though it is indeed the realm that separates both the Mortal World and the Underworld, as mentioned by Gaia and the Mural at the doorway that needs the Skull of Keres.
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They use Death's Domain as an argument because they still believe in that one fake "transcends dimensionalities" scan.
 
ByAsura said:
Who knows. I'm just going off what's said in-game; they know pasts and decisions, so they can divine the future because it's predictable.

None of this comes from peering into timelines.
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And I’m going off of established cannon in general

says who?


KLOL506 said:
Word about a Godkiller murking an entire pantheon has reached ALL Pantheons, that's how infamous Kratos has become. Not just Norse, it's even reached the Egyptian Pantheon. Just ask Thoth.
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Kratos having street cred is cool and all but that still doesn’t explain how they would know that kratos would come to the norse world, much less him getting in a confrontation with baldur
 
The_one_you_least_expect said:
And I’m going off of established cannon in general

says who?
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Says Ragnarok. Their predictions don't come from alternate timelines, and that is indeed 100% a fact. They literally base it based on what ******-up life decisions you make.

The_one_you_least_expect said:
Kratos having street cred is cool and all but that still doesn’t explain how they would know that kratos would come to the norse world, much less him getting in a confrontation with baldur
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They didn't. Groa did.
 
Young Olympians were neck-and-neck with the full-power Titans.

Thousands of years later, these same Olympians have gotten crazy asspull power boosts and are one-shotting these same exact Titans pulled out of the past like it's a game of bingo, it's not even funny to explain just how big of a power gap this is.

Not even a week ago prior to the Second Titanomachy Zeus was berating Poseidon for being unable to deal with a depowered Oceanus (Weakest Titan) who was on a temporary prayer boost and was using the power of the world's oceans to distract the Olympians, and then within a week Poseidon is back to clapping random Titans stronger than Oceanus.
 
Remember, in the First Titanomachy, all the Olympians, Zeus included, wasn't enough to beat the Titans for at least hundreds of years. Zeus had to forge the Blade of Olympus to instantly end the war.

Fast forward to a thousand years later, and the power difference of the Olympians is so far apart that it's just straight up hilarious and sad at the same time to watch them murk the same exact Titans from the past so quickly.
 
KLOL506 said:
Remember, in the First Titanomachy, all the Olympians, Zeus included, wasn't enough to beat the Titans for at least hundreds of years. Zeus had to forge the Blade of Olympus to instantly end the war.

Fast forward to a thousand years later, and the power difference of the Olympians is so far apart that it's just straight up hilarious and sad at the same time to watch them murk the same exact Titans from the past so quickly.
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Yeah. Though, I recall hearing that Oceanus in his water form would be able to kill Hermes. That's what it says on the Oceanus GOW Wiki page, at least.
 

Take a look at this guy's tweets, HOLY...

I laughed for a good 10 minutes after seeing such masterpiece of a question on this post:-
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