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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

NikHelton said:
What is the Platonic concept and why is it 1-A?
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Apparently they are realer-than-real abstractions fundamental to the universe which exist at the highest level of reality beyond space, time, dimensions, and all possible dualities. At least that's what I've heard across many battleboard forums, at least.
 
CrisisCrysis said:
Also, Freya=Peak Norse Kratos is a major L.

What Surtr wank are we talking about here?
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Freya scales to Odin even without that and was considered his greatest threat even when considering that he's aware of his realms fate at the hands of Sutr. Her power was venerated by all of the Valkyries, including Sigrun and Gna.

Like, it's not that surprising honestly.

Sutr as Raganrok would've ended existence as per the art book. Just support stuff really.
 
KLOL506 said:
Ye, Fate doesn't exist in Norse. The Norns have no such power of controlling time or fate.

This is kind of the reason the Greek Sisters of Fate excel in pretty much everything, magic, battle prowess and brute strength, all of them. Freya herself is shocked at the mere mention of the Sisters (Moirai) having such powers to begin with.
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Ok, that still doesn’t change what the well is or dose.
 
NikHelton said:
What is the Platonic concept and why is it 1-A?
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Going by definition
"*any of various revivals of Platonic doctrines or related ideas, especially Neoplatonism and Cambridge Platonism (a 17th-century attempt to reconcile Christianity with humanism and science).
*the theory that numbers or other abstract objects are objective, timeless entities, independent of the physical world and of the symbols used to represent them.'

For why is outer i think usually is wank and shit
 
KLOL506 said:
He most certainly would, but it's incredibly OoC and he would never even bother to use it no matter how hard you press him. Even if you bloodlust him, his Spartan instinct won't allow it.
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Oh god, please don't let the YouTube/TikTok scalers find this post.

INB4: "Kratos can make pocket dimensions where he's omnipresent and therefore can beat every character"
 
NikHelton said:
Pardon, I was about to make a thread with a question about GoW-level statements, but found out about the existence of this thread.

There are a lot of scans on YouTube that look like excerpts from a databook or something like that. They say that Thanatos created the outverse, has immeasurable speed.
Have these scans already risen in threads?
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There's a weird but cool tidbit about the Nidhogg fight.

Her claw attacks literally hit Kratos before Nidhogg actually shoves her arm into the portals.

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NikHelton said:
Pardon, I was about to make a thread with a question about GoW-level statements, but found out about the existence of this thread.

There are a lot of scans on YouTube that look like excerpts from a databook or something like that. They say that Thanatos created the outverse, has immeasurable speed.
Have these scans already risen in threads?
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What the **** LMFAO

We have never heard of such scans LMFAO, let alone admiration for Thanatos, people rarely wank him that often, but I guess they couldn't wait until today LMFAO.
 
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed
Immeasurable speed characters are far beyond even those Infinite speed characters listed above. They perceive infinite speed characters as completely frozen, and they can travel forward and backward in time at will. They have the speed necessary to hop from the beginning of time, to the end of time, and anywhere in between as casually as a human being can roll their eyes left or right. This also means their reaction time is faster than instantaneous. They can dodge an attack that already has been struck, and they can strike someone even before they launched an attack. And they can do all of this via sheer speed.
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Nidhog can attack before strikes, and Kratos can react to it.

KLOL506 said:
He most certainly would, but it's incredibly OoC and he would never even bother to use it no matter how hard you press him. Even if you bloodlust him, his Spartan instinct won't allow it.
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Shush, bad klol.
Kratos wasn't given GoW powers untill end of GoS.
And he starts off in 2 with it literally. So I wouldn't call it out of character for no reason.
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed


Nidhog can attack before strikes, and Kratos can react to it.
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I wouldn't call it Immeasurable speed because clearly space-time fuckery is involved wherever Nidhogg goes, but it's a pretty ******* baller speed feat for Nidhogg and Kratos nonetheless.

GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
Shush, bad klol.
Kratos wasn't given GoW powers untill end of GoS.
And he starts off in 2 with it literally. So I wouldn't call it out of character for no reason.
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DO NOT DENY ME MY DOWNPLAY!
 
KLOL506 said:
And here's the kicker.

There is no mention of the Well ever being used to see futures or endless realities or possibilities or any of the sort. Hell, it isn't even a well at all, just a lake called the "Well of Urd".
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Ok so agian there’s nothing the game actually states that negs it having timelines in it. If anything it seems like it just dose what it is stated to do in the card game since the norns still know possible futures
 
The_one_you_least_expect said:
Ok so agian there’s nothing the game actually states that negs it having timelines in it.
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The Well not being a Mystic Well for the Norns to use to view countless futures and instead merely being their hiding place shoots that notion right in the foot.

The_one_you_least_expect said:
If anything it seems like it just dose what it is stated to do in the card game since the norns still know possible futures
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They know the possible futures based on the decisions others take, not that they're alternate timelines.

The only other place where alternate timelines are actually confirmed to exist is for the Greek side, and even then it's from Bruno with reference to the Cardgame description itself for the actual part where he states that Ares killing Kratos in the final battle is an alternate timeline.

Then there's Bruno also stating that Zeus wiped out the Spartan army "in every timeline" and that was a completely unprecedented answer that no one expected or asked about.
 
The_one_you_least_expect said:
Ok so agian there’s nothing the game actually states that negs it having timelines in it. If anything it seems like it just dose what it is stated to do in the card game since the norns still know possible futures
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The Norns don't know all possible futures. That's literally a plot point in the game.

They can just predict people very accurately, and can sometimes (but not very often) be wrong.
 
KLOL506 said:
The Well not being a Mystic Well for the Norns to use to view countless futures and instead merely being their hiding place shoots that notion right in the foot.


They know the possible futures based on the decisions others take, not that they're alternate timelines.

The only other place where alternate timelines are actually confirmed to exist is for the Greek side, and even then it's from Bruno with reference to the Cardgame description itself for the actual part where he states that Ares killing Kratos in the final battle is an alternate timeline.

Then there's Bruno also stating that Zeus wiped out the Spartan army "in every timeline" and that was a completely unprecedented answer that no one expected or asked about.
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Who said it was just there hiding spot?

And how exactly do they know everyone and what decisions they might make or of baldur’s death?


ByAsura said:
The Norns don't know all possible futures. That's literally a plot point in the game.

They can just predict people very accurately, and can sometimes (but not very often) be wrong.
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So they can predict people so we’ll they can predict peoples deaths to without and future sight apparently?
 
Unchad people = Scaling Kratos from 11-C to 3-A
Chad people = Scaling Kratos from 2-C to low 1-C
Unchad people = Scaling Kratos from High 1-C to 0

List of facts
 
The_one_you_least_expect said:
Predicting peoples actions is one thing, predicting there deaths is something completely different. There’s nothing contradicting the well having infinite timelines in it nor the norns using it to seeing possible futures
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You do realize that the Well of Urd was supposed to have a similar build structure as the Well in the Realm Travel Room, right? It doesn't in Ragnarok, it's just a big-ass lake where the Norns live.
 
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