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Using Game Mechanics to try and defy the true lore of the game is indeed headcanon.
Like what? All these "anti-feats" you just mentioned that have no basis whatsoever?
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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread
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Bro I am honestly done. He doesn't get that characters on your screen Need to move on normal Speed and that you cannot run all over the map in a second lol.
The guy probably thinks Link from Zelda Is human Speed since he travels with an horse, Who cares If he outspeeds lightings and light in combat lmao.
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Bro wants the game to end in 0 seconds.
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Hard to blame him, he never read this page.
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Asura's Wrath back in 2012 showed that if the game developers want to portray a character to be strong they can just fine
it's 2022 now 0 excuses and the most obvious answer is Kratos just isn't that powerful
The fact he had to come up with an elabarote plan to break ice beneath him is laughable as well
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I'm surprised someone a Wonder Woman and Superman pfp doesn't know what outliers are. Even if you think Hermes is building level with subsonic speed the feat would be stupid either way.
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game isn't going to end in 0 seconds because Kratos is not someone with the speed to move that fast as shown in multiple games hence why the game works fine
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who says that he isn't? from people comparable to him that is how he is moving, regardless of how fast he is moving
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It's hilarious because that ice is directly stated to have been magically made
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Authors explained It. Kratos also needs to solve puzzle and "find an other way" instead of breaking wood, do you think Kratos cannot break wood? Really??
Man?
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GOW Ascension much?
Clearly the primary canon comics, GOW Ascension and its multiplayer, the countless interviews, WoG statements, artbooks, novels and guidebooks are not in your favor.
Ignoring the fact that the ice is made from Thamur's magical breath, are we to ignore Kratos and Thor literally smashing the Fimbulwinter ice beneath them with Mjolnir and Leviathan?
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Asura's Wrath in 2012 showed planetary actions at best. No feats were shown above planetary. Chakravartin was throwing planets at Asura. So Asura is planetary with your logic?
Also, with the ice part, this is out of context. The ice was magical.
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Kratos in game has no highend speed eats to fall back onto.
saying it's an outlier but thinking Kratos is someone with infinte speed is fine is just idiotic
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That's what you strawman amounts to say when you incredulously ask why Kratos didn't Blitz Baldur and save his son.
Cinematic Timing? You know something which is not just a game thing but also a visual media thing? Or maybe by your logic mangas and comics should be zero speed because they are still images because in that case timing is entirely dependent on reader.
Feats speak for themselves, besides every verse with anything supersonic speeds falls apart with logic.
Even Dragon Ball isn't FTL let alone MFTL+ because not only are those feats sparse, they are also outnumbered hilariously with general depictions of speed which are barely superhuman.
That's to say nothing of infinite and immeasurable speed.
Let's see... You atleast agree Kratos is vastly superhuman in attributes right?
Then why does he stop to solve puzzles? Why not just break them? Why does he not just bulldoze through everything in his path and run straight to his objective like Juggernaut?
I am sure Kratos is able to jump huge distances and sprint through any man made or natural structure with his strength with ease.
Then why are games making us do these elaborate stuff in gameplay?
Ooohh maybe because Kratos steam rolling through everything will have zero potential to be a good adventure hack and slash game.
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Once again, Hermes. Refusing to acknowledge it doesn't make it disappear.
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Guys, should we tell him about the Redeemed Warriors? Or Zeus and his lightning?
Like I said, a "you" problem. You ain't convincing anyone with those half-assed and shoddy arguments.
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pretty sure he destroyed stars.
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hermes was damaged heavily by a collapsing statue refusing to acknowledge it doesn't make it disappear
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Literally means ****-all when he still dodges the light in said wounded state.
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Except he does. He's been stated by word of god to be faster than characters that can use abilities that moves them at actual light speed according to in game descriptions. And that's ignoring Helios stuff.
Yes because one is a ridiculous outlier that even a lowballed Kratos and Hermes out scale and out perform in other feats.
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yet he never once shows his super speed the only time he shows some semblance of super speed is when he slows down time in the newer games everything is an outlier to you guys unless it doesn't support the weird notion Kratos is infinitely fast
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Once again, I refer you to: Game Mechanics
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Most of the "arguments" against Kratos' speed here apply to every single character on this site. So far I've seen ignorance to cinematic timing, a weird insistence on on-screen showings that almost no video game does and complete and utter ignorance of every bit of secondary canon and statements that we use here on top of disregard for game mechanics.
There's little reason to keep engaging guys, just read and move on.
There's little reason to keep engaging guys, just read and move on.
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Your logic is so bad it doesn't even work with any speed above average human.
I guess games like DBXV and Heroes are just superhuman at best now.
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Asuras wrath in 2012 had enough game mechanics to show how powerful he was
Game mechanics work fine in Gow when you actually use your brain and think that Kratos just isn't fast
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It does, as Hermes was not only severely underestimating Kratos to the point where he practically saw him as an ant, but he was also standing still. As for being injured, it was an injury that didn't even impact his speed, as he was STILL able to dodge the Light of Helios.
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they have better speed feats to fall back onto and have actually displayed usage of super speed.
Kratos doesn't, fastest guy Hermes has a pitiful showing in GOW3
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No? His best game mechanic feat was planetary. May have been a star there, I don't remember exactly. So star level at best, sure. At his best form, that literally required the Mantra Reactor. That's it. Kratos has far better game mechanic feats, like beating Thanatos, who literally created the infinite universe that was Death's Domain, or beating Cronos, who beat Uranus in a universal fight, or beating Thor, who splintered a 2-A (though now 2-C though it will never change in my heart) structure known as Yggdrasil.
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You might be surprised to know it also downplayed him ridiculously hard, and he suffers the same exact shit as Kratos as per your words. Like literally every other video game character.
What "over-insistence on on-screen showings that almost no video game does and complete and utter ignorance of every bit of secondary canon and statements that we use here on top of disregard for game mechanics" does to a MF'er.
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you ignore it because you want Kratos to be at a level he's never portrayed at in his actual game
using dubious novels claims which contradict the primary source is laughable.
If someone who never played Gow before played all it's games i can 1000% guarantee they would disagree with the notion Kratos is a Multiverrsal infinite speed character
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Insert Cory Barlog stating games can't properly showcase power for the nth time here
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Dubious novel claims? Most of them are outright stated, there's no maybes, there's no "possibles." It's "This happened for a fact. There is no debate here."
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Primary Canon Comic Books, Bonus Discs, Interviews, Secondary Canon, Chains of Olympus, GOW Ascension, Guidebooks and Artbooks: COPE, SEETHE, MALD, DILATE, CRY ABOUT IT, SKILL ISSUE
WoG literally states the novels to be secondary canon. Your arguments are automatically null and void on that basis alone.
Oh look, it's me! Except you're just so, so wrong. I could not have been any more of a believer after actually playing through all the games. Save for Betrayal.
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Ghost of Sparta, too. Thanatos is not to be downplayed.
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play the games it's that simple.novel statements contradicts what happens in the game so much you have to turn your brain off to make them work
screaming cope seethe and mald makes you come across as a child
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I'd say novels, comics, guides, the game developers outright saying that they can't fully depict Kratos' levels of strength purely for gameplay reasons isn't dubious. But eh, more power to you.
I can get someone who's never consumed Dragon Ball media to say Goku is Tier 5, what's your point here?
Honestly, I could care less what you think of Kratos' speed. As per site standards, abusing game mechanics for statistics isn't a thing we do here. So if you want to change that, revise the rules and come back here. Otherwise, don't really be surprised that no one takes you seriously.
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Ahahahahahaha, no.
The only contradictions that happen are slight changes in events. Not the actual feats of strength themselves. Those are perfectly intact.
Says the guy literally doing this exact thing against all other source material.
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